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Netherlands Mr_Bramboy
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15 Apr 2017, 12:59

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Hey everyone,

As the final days of the group stages approach, we would like to remind everyone to play out their games before Monday. If this isn't possible, we are willing to extend some series until Tuesday. After that, admin decisions will be made to conclude the group stages and we will move on to the RO128!

Check out the current standings here!
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Sweden Gendarme
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15 Apr 2017, 13:38

#hype
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Brazil lemmings121
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15 Apr 2017, 14:02

Maybe ~20% of the games where played? Those guys suck :(

Ban everyone!
Germany lordraphael
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15 Apr 2017, 15:02

sir callen and site havent played a single game yet. Thats more than disappointing if they cant schedule their games how can we expcet this of anyone ?
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United States of America n0el
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15 Apr 2017, 15:03

lordraphael wrote:sir callen and site havent played a single game yet. Thats more than disappointing if they cant schedule their games how can we expcet this of anyone ?


Site played and then withdrew based on some other things that went on. Sircallen :salt: :salt: :salt:
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Czech Republic EAGLEMUT
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15 Apr 2017, 15:27

Ye, both of them have resigned from the tournament so don't expect any games to come up.
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Spain yoqpasa
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15 Apr 2017, 15:56

I have a suggestion: in order to reward those players who played their games you should grant points as follows

Win: 1 point
Lose: 0.1 points
:pop: An average ESOican :pop:
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Netherlands Jerom
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15 Apr 2017, 16:04

Maybe group stages are just too hopeful of an idea.

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Czech Republic EAGLEMUT
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15 Apr 2017, 16:25

Jerom wrote:Maybe group stages are just too hopeful of an idea.

I don't think it's as grim, there's still more games to be played out before group stage ends and we still have some early results posted outside the system, right? It's of course very unfortunate that several participants withdrew from the tournament just as it started, that's going to bring down the number of played games quite a lot obviously.
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15 Apr 2017, 16:35

Diarouga58 wrote:
EAGLEMUT wrote:
Jerom wrote:Maybe group stages are just too hopeful of an idea.

I don't think it's as grim, there's still more games to be played out before group stage ends and we still have some early results posted outside the system, right? It's of course very unfortunate that several participants withdrew from the tournament just as it started, that's going to bring down the number of played games quite a lot obviously.

Yeah, but it's not like it's something esoc cares about.

If only you knew what you were talking about..

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France kami_ryu
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15 Apr 2017, 16:37

I played all my games. Cookie please

e: rouga please. please come back to the light. do your time and come back as a normal member after. would be best for literally everyone
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Sweden Gendarme
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15 Apr 2017, 20:25

Ha, you fool! You stand before the temple of a GOD. Your pitiful Light cannot reach you here.
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16 Apr 2017, 06:42

Jerom wrote:Maybe group stages are just too hopeful of an idea.

Maybe everyone should just be entered into the tourney RO's straight away. Make it a RO256 but with a whole bunch getting 1st round byes. People wouldn't need to organise 2/3 matches with people on the other side of the world to them. Might just be easier that way? What are some possible drawbacks to this?
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16 Apr 2017, 09:33

wardyb1 wrote:
Jerom wrote:Maybe group stages are just too hopeful of an idea.

Maybe everyone should just be entered into the tourney RO's straight away. Make it a RO256 but with a whole bunch getting 1st round byes. People wouldn't need to organise 2/3 matches with people on the other side of the world to them. Might just be easier that way? What are some possible drawbacks to this?

Yeah I thought about this too with potentially an even more complex system but idk. I just dont know anymore.

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Netherlands Mr_Bramboy
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16 Apr 2017, 09:36

We had that during summer. It's no fun for most players to be knocked out instantly against a way better opponent so we decided against that in the end.
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Netherlands Jerom
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16 Apr 2017, 10:18

You could theoretically seed much more thoroughly though. Top 32 elo in ro64, the next 64 in ro 128 or sth, next people placed in ro256 sth like that.

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United States of America giveuanxiety
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16 Apr 2017, 19:47

There is no reason to be upset about how the group stage is going, ya a lot of games wont be played because the lower ranked players dont take the game as serious, this is something that will never change. It's still worth it to have the groupstage and allow some of them the fun of playing in it rather than punishing all lower ranked players for actions that some of them made.
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Netherlands Jerom
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16 Apr 2017, 19:48

giveuanxiety wrote:There is no reason to be upset about how the group stage is going, ya a lot of games wont be played because the lower ranked players dont take the game as serious, this is something that will never change. It's still worth it to have the groupstage and allow some of them the fun of playing in it rather than punishing all lower ranked players for actions that some of them made.

Until you spend a few hours digging through the giant clusterfuck of the group stage trying to figure out who deserves to advance and who doesn't. Then theres some reason to be disappointed.

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United States of America SirCallen
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16 Apr 2017, 19:55

lordraphael wrote:sir callen and site havent played a single game yet. Thats more than disappointing if they cant schedule their games how can we expcet this of anyone ?

I would never have even signed up in the first place if a lot of people didn't ask me to. That's on me, though.

I should probably be banned from future events.. at the very least. Maybe even pend an indefinite forum ban. Quick, call up a replacement, call up SirMusket. At least when he quits aoe he actually quits aoe. #BringBackTheBetterSir
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16 Apr 2017, 19:58

sir_musket is laughing at u aoe nerds
"Well, now you are playing otto, but tommorow you might become a rapist, or a serial killer" -VaneStoilov

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United States of America SirCallen
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16 Apr 2017, 19:59

And we're laughing at him. It's a wonderful, mutual relationship.
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United States of America __Uhlan__
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16 Apr 2017, 20:05

I still don't get why elo is used for seeding, many examples of a good player having a low elo, and it's not like you guys don't know the good and bad players...hazza with a 2100 elo is not a 2100 elo player, and there are also many other examples that I'm to lazy to look for. It's 256 players the seeding could be done way better, I mean this tourney it's very clear the bottom bracket is 10x harder and I don't get why it hasn't been changed yet.
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United States of America SirCallen
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16 Apr 2017, 20:08

I'd say this tournament is literally the worst tournament that has ever been tourney'd!
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Great Britain britishmusketeer
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16 Apr 2017, 20:16

__Uhlan__ wrote:I still don't get why elo is used for seeding

what would you use instead?
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Germany aligator92
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16 Apr 2017, 20:25

I think the group stage should be kept because this potentially gives everybody three games before getting knocked out while an elimination bracket doesn't. I think it mainly helps the Lieutenants to Captains to have some competetive games. The lower ranks most likely still lose every game but that is basically what they sign up for. Maybe I am this positive because my group actually worked really well and I think all games were played.

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