Papist wrote:..and told the viewers he doesn't care what they think.
to be fair some of the viewers threatend to "find him and kill him"
Papist wrote:..and told the viewers he doesn't care what they think.
AOEisLOVE_AOEisLIFE wrote:Papist wrote:..and told the viewers he doesn't care what they think.
to be fair some of the viewers threatend to "find him and kill him"
No offense intended
umeu wrote:Still shouldnt tolerate people like that, papist.
Goodspeed wrote:@aqwer You may disagree with the man's actions but your posts have been attacking him on a personal level. Is that necessary?No offense intended
Kommander wrote:This thread is just repeating itself now.
One side thinks A.
The other thinks B.
Some think C and D.
Can we just end this now? There's no point in us debating this. The top ESO-C guys should handle this among themselves. Not in a thread. But this is just my 2 cents.
EAGLEMUT wrote:Wow, I gotta say the irony of these Kaiser quotes put together is pretty damn high right now.
One day he calls out players like me for not resigning quick enough for his tastes and how very disrespectful that is, not a month later he quits in the middle of a highly anticipated semi-finals stream watched by hundreds of people and proceeds to proudly say he doesn't give a shit about any of them, literally "least" of his concerns.
pecelot wrote:Twitch chats are definitely much looser in terms of rules and ethics in general, unfortunately, but as soon as things get out of hand, we try to step in — however, we're just humans and some things may just not be spotted — sorry for the inconvenience then, we'd appreciate any forms of constructive criticism and feedback.
pecelot wrote:Kaiserklein wrote:Ah and once again, I didn't forfeit, idk where everyone read that lol.
And yeah I didn't think about asking for a big break because it's not something that people do in tourneys usually. At that point I just didn't care anymore, also because I basically didn't prepare that series, and decided to just go off.
These are contradictory.
pecelot wrote:Kaiserklein wrote:And if people insult me and I flame back, it's as much my fault as theirs. Iirc you were one of those guys hating in the chat. Well, you're as much responsible for the flame war as I am.
This is not mature.
Papist wrote:He's not being punished. He's experiencing the logical consequences of his actions. If you "storm out" in the middle of an event, it's ridiculous to assume that you can just walk back in and take up where things left off when you tilted. That is entitlement at its finest.
Papist wrote:I find it curious that you and others here are trying to brush off someone forfeiting (yes, storming off in the middle of an event is in fact a forfeit) the semi finals as "no big deal". Harm was done to the person who funded the tournament, and to the viewers. If Kaiserklein couldn't stand to lose, he shouldn't have participated in the first place. There are plenty of mature players ready to take his place and give the viewers a good experience, I assure you.
Papist wrote:If you had any doubts at all about Kaiser's motives for quitting, him offering to play the series if he gets to replay Game 2 should allay them. That proves that Raphael's analysis was spot on - he just couldn't bear the idea of getting swept. Everything else is just an excuse.
Papist wrote:Yeah, he apologized...then proceeded to blame everything and everyone else for his behavior, and told the viewers he doesn't care what they think. You can tell he feels really bad about what he did.
LoOk_tOm wrote:I have something in particular against Kaisar (GERMANY NOOB mercenary LAMME FOREVER) And the other people (noobs) like suck kaiser ... just this ..
Kaiserklein wrote:The difference being, I actually quit because I was mad. I didn't do it for fun. And then I apologized.
Kaiserklein wrote:I don't see anything contradictory here. I was pissed and went off, didn't forfeit.
Kaiserklein wrote:
And if people insult me and I flame back, it's as much my fault as theirs. Iirc you were one of those guys hating in the chat. Well, you're as much responsible for the flame war as I am.
Kaiserklein wrote:I am literally being punished lol. Quoting bramboy: "...though the tournament admins will discuss any further punishment later this week."
Anyway, as I said multiple times, I was just waiting for the admin decision to be made. Nothing else. Now it's done, I don't think you heard me complaining. So where's the entitlement?
Kaiserklein wrote:Dude, I was answering to some guy telling me that I'm ridiculous, that I never did anything of my life, that I'm a nerd, etc. How do you expect me to answer? With flowers? Your job would maybe be to actually tell that guy to stop personal attacks, instead of bringing your useless grain of salt in this thread... Btw I'd like you to tell me where I blamed everything and everyone else. And yes, I do feel bad about what I did.
Jerom wrote:An apoligy means something when it comes with the intention to not show the same behaviour again or to improve on that behaviour. Quite frankly, I think kaiser is not apoligizing but just saying an empty sorry.
LoOk_tOm wrote:I have something in particular against Kaisar (GERMANY NOOB mercenary LAMME FOREVER) And the other people (noobs) like suck kaiser ... just this ..
Kaiserklein wrote:Jerom wrote:An apoligy means something when it comes with the intention to not show the same behaviour again or to improve on that behaviour. Quite frankly, I think kaiser is not apoligizing but just saying an empty sorry.
You really think I would do it again?
Jerom wrote:Kaiserklein wrote:Jerom wrote:An apoligy means something when it comes with the intention to not show the same behaviour again or to improve on that behaviour. Quite frankly, I think kaiser is not apoligizing but just saying an empty sorry.
You really think I would do it again?
without hesitation.
LoOk_tOm wrote:I have something in particular against Kaisar (GERMANY NOOB mercenary LAMME FOREVER) And the other people (noobs) like suck kaiser ... just this ..
P i k i l i c wrote:So, from what I've seen so far, developing theories about other people's flaws brings more negativity than posting a cheating accusation with evidence
LoOk_tOm wrote:I have something in particular against Kaisar (GERMANY NOOB mercenary LAMME FOREVER) And the other people (noobs) like suck kaiser ... just this ..
Kaiserklein wrote:EAGLEMUT wrote:Wow, I gotta say the irony of these Kaiser quotes put together is pretty damn high right now.
One day he calls out players like me for not resigning quick enough for his tastes and how very disrespectful that is, not a month later he quits in the middle of a highly anticipated semi-finals stream watched by hundreds of people and proceeds to proudly say he doesn't give a shit about any of them, literally "least" of his concerns.
The difference being, I actually quit because I was mad. I didn't do it for fun. And then I apologized.
Kaiserklein wrote:pecelot wrote:Twitch chats are definitely much looser in terms of rules and ethics in general, unfortunately, but as soon as things get out of hand, we try to step in — however, we're just humans and some things may just not be spotted — sorry for the inconvenience then, we'd appreciate any forms of constructive criticism and feedback.
I mean, a ton of people were insulting me, if not threatening me. Was just impossible to not see it, stop kidding.
Kaiserklein wrote:pecelot wrote:Kaiserklein wrote:Ah and once again, I didn't forfeit, idk where everyone read that lol.
And yeah I didn't think about asking for a big break because it's not something that people do in tourneys usually. At that point I just didn't care anymore, also because I basically didn't prepare that series, and decided to just go off.
These are contradictory.
I don't see anything contradictory here. I was pissed and went off, didn't forfeit.
Kaiserklein wrote:pecelot wrote:Kaiserklein wrote:And if people insult me and I flame back, it's as much my fault as theirs. Iirc you were one of those guys hating in the chat. Well, you're as much responsible for the flame war as I am.
This is not mature.
Yeah it's obviously not. I don't think anyone here was thinking it is. Still, those guys are responsible too, and no mod was doing anything in the chat.
Kaiserklein wrote:Papist wrote:He's not being punished. He's experiencing the logical consequences of his actions. If you "storm out" in the middle of an event, it's ridiculous to assume that you can just walk back in and take up where things left off when you tilted. That is entitlement at its finest.
I am literally being punished lol. Quoting bramboy: "...though the tournament admins will discuss any further punishment later this week."
Kaiserklein wrote:Papist wrote:I find it curious that you and others here are trying to brush off someone forfeiting (yes, storming off in the middle of an event is in fact a forfeit) the semi finals as "no big deal". Harm was done to the person who funded the tournament, and to the viewers. If Kaiserklein couldn't stand to lose, he shouldn't have participated in the first place. There are plenty of mature players ready to take his place and give the viewers a good experience, I assure you.
I didn't forfeit, I quit halfway through the series. I've seen other series be split in 2 parts before. It could have been decided that I have a warning and we just finish the series later, for example. Obviously that didn't happen, but it still doesn't mean I forfeited. Btw if that's what you call "harm", you should probably go out a little bit more often. Oh and people threatening to find me and kill me, or w/e other bullshit in the chat, is actually more harmful than what I did, but of course there was no mod to keep the chat clean... Or actually there maybe were, but they did nothing. Quoting papist about those threats: "1) Those weren't serious threats as you well know, and 2) a couple assholes in the chat hardly speak for the 200+ viewers."; this just shows how much you guys care about that.
As you may know (or maybe not, since you don't seem to be really involved in aoe), it's the first time I quit a tourney series. So why should I have not participated? If you think it's better, then just get me banned from all esoc tourneys.
Kaiserklein wrote:Dude, I was answering to some guy telling me that I'm ridiculous, that I never did anything of my life, that I'm a nerd, etc. How do you expect me to answer? With flowers? Your job would maybe be to actually tell that guy to stop personal attacks, instead of bringing your useless grain of salt in this thread... Btw I'd like you to tell me where I blamed everything and everyone else. And yes, I do feel bad about what I did.
Kaiserklein wrote:Jerom wrote:Kaiserklein wrote:You really think I would do it again?
without hesitation.
Well you're wrong
Kaiserklein wrote:P i k i l i c wrote:So, from what I've seen so far, developing theories about other people's flaws brings more negativity than posting a cheating accusation with evidence
Ofc it does. But they're not gonna lock since the mod enjoy posting in this thread
I am literally being punished lol. Quoting bramboy: "...though the tournament admins will discuss any further punishment later this week."
Anyway, as I said multiple times, I was just waiting for the admin decision to be made. Nothing else. Now it's done, I don't think you heard me complaining. So where's the entitlement?
I didn't forfeit, I quit halfway through the series. I've seen other series be split in 2 parts before. It could have been decided that I have a warning and we just finish the series later, for example. Obviously that didn't happen, but it still doesn't mean I forfeited. Btw if that's what you call "harm", you should probably go out a little bit more often.
Oh and people threatening to find me and kill me, or w/e other bullshit in the chat, is actually more harmful than what I did, but of course there was no mod to keep the chat clean... Or actually there maybe were, but they did nothing. Quoting papist about those threats: "1) Those weren't serious threats as you well know, and 2) a couple assholes in the chat hardly speak for the 200+ viewers."; this just shows how much you guys care about that.
As you may know (or maybe not, since you don't seem to be really involved in aoe), it's the first time I quit a tourney series. So why should I have not participated? If you think it's better, then just get me banned from all esoc tourneys.
You probably didn't even watch the series, but of course again you bring your insane knowledge. It was unplayable and I was pissed to lose 1 game on the lag. I think it was quite obvious that the lag made this series not competitive. Oh and btw, I also offered to play the series from 2-0, so you're wrong. Now you can speculate for the sake of humiliating if you want, I don't really care.
Dude, I was answering to some guy telling me that I'm ridiculous, that I never did anything of my life, that I'm a nerd, etc. How do you expect me to answer? With flowers? Your job would maybe be to actually tell that guy to stop personal attacks, instead of bringing your useless grain of salt in this thread... Btw I'd like you to tell me where I blamed everything and everyone else. And yes, I do feel bad about what I did.
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