Poll: Would you play ESOC FP?

If ESOC was to release a fan patch (more info in post), would you play it and why?

Yes, because I want to be able to play all civs.
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Yes, because I want to play rated on ESOC maps.
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Yes, for a different reason.
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No, because it will be hard to find games on my level.
32
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No, because I don't want any civs to change.
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No, for a different reason.
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incog wrote:Sorry~~

We have lots of announcements to make in the coming time. We''ll get to it, don''t worry. ^^
Tonight will be the announcments?
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And it would be good that Russia has vill shipments at age 2
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medinos wrote:So nothing about FP today is going to be said ?
After the finals ')

But no worries, the patch is coming and it''s coming soon.
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calmyourtits wrote:
medinos wrote:So nothing about FP today is going to be said ?
After the finals ')

But no worries, the patch is coming and its coming soon.
I have a feeling you are delaying Acer vs Sam at the very beginning ?
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I think u should go sleep
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medinos wrote:And it would be good that Russia has vill shipments at age 2



Do they?
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Ask goodspeed for patch notes , he knows!!!!
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jerom wrote:
g06092 wrote:And youre clearly missing the start of the conversation.
he actually said the same as I did at the start of the conversation, but phrased it better.

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jerom wrote:
g06092 wrote:And youre clearly missing the start of the conversation.
he actually said the same as I did at the start of the conversation, but phrased it better.
What you said was that in Russia vs Dutch MU Russia is better on water map for no reason. After that you said that its because they dont have 3 vills card and thats what I called stupid. Both civs have schooner even though actually that card isnt really needed. All you need as Dutch is to stop Russia from booming on water not to boom yourself. Dutch already has its option of land boom - by banks.
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Ok so let's imagine 2 civs are balanced : russia = dutch (I know it's not the case). Then mathematically, if russia with a trickle is as good as dutch with 3 vils, when you remove both the trickle and the 3 vils, russia becomes better, right ? Because the trickle is less important than 3 vils. So russia can send schooners first more easily than dutchies.

Anyway there are other reasons why russia is better on water, like bh being so good to secure the shores while making military, and the fact that in age 2 if the dutch is investing in his banks he won't really be able to water boom, while the russian guy can just boom in his way (making vils constantly) and water boom at the same time
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Or that Dutch already has the ability to boom, while russia doesnt really have that option. On water, there arent any new playstyles while russia suddenly can water boom aswell as play it agressively.
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Well Dutch can now invest their 700 resources into 7 villagers and not into 4.5 villagers.
Don't let the things you can't change dictate your life.
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Civs should have their weakness and strenghtand playstyle!!!! Fp should respect that and not make all civs the same .

Im confident for a wise FP , i hope so !! Patch notes release anytime ?
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kaiserklein wrote:Ok so let''s imagine 2 civs are balanced : russia = dutch (I know it''s not the case). Then mathematically, if russia with a trickle is as good as dutch with 3 vils, when you remove both the trickle and the 3 vils, russia becomes better, right ? Because the trickle is less important than 3 vils. So russia can send schooners first more easily than dutchies.

Anyway there are other reasons why russia is better on water, like bh being so good to secure the shores while making military, and the fact that in age 2 if the dutch is investing in his banks he won''t really be able to water boom, while the russian guy can just boom in his way (making vils constantly) and water boom at the same time

That''s not true. Because the best russian water boom build is trickle/schooners/700w while dutch''s build is 3v/700w/schooners. The russian water better is ofc better but your argument isn''t relevant.
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diarouga wrote:
kaiserklein wrote:Ok so lets imagine 2 civs are balanced : russia = dutch (I know its not the case). Then mathematically, if russia with a trickle is as good as dutch with 3 vils, when you remove both the trickle and the 3 vils, russia becomes better, right ? Because the trickle is less important than 3 vils. So russia can send schooners first more easily than dutchies.

Anyway there are other reasons why russia is better on water, like bh being so good to secure the shores while making military, and the fact that in age 2 if the dutch is investing in his banks he wont really be able to water boom, while the russian guy can just boom in his way (making vils constantly) and water boom at the same time
Thats not true. Because the best russian water boom build is trickle/schooners/700w while dutchs build is 3v/700w/schooners. The russian water better is ofc better but your argument isnt relevant.
Thats not my argument. I didnt say one should send schooners first as russia, because 1) I dont have a clue 2) I dont give a shit. I was merely showing why its less of a waste for russia to skip trickle than for dutch to skip 3 vils, because the other guy didnt believe Jerom about this.


But yeah anyway russ is overall better for water than dutch
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When you water boom you send both trickle and schooners, you don't skip it.
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I dont understand why no changes for India and China , they must get some nerfing
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And some treasures gonna be nerf on the game ? like 1 coureur , all +100 resources treasures?
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india and china are fine, not too op. Garja tried to fix treasures but he can't.
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he cant fix treasures ? damn why not ? treasures should be a priority for balance

Minor changes to India and china would be easely done, like just nerf the military unit cards in fortress for china and for India reduce spoy hp, just these 2 changes
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I didn't even try, treasures are more or less fine already. CDB is a level3 treasure which means it will only appear in team games.
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lusas wrote:he cant fix treasures ? damn why not ? treasures should be a priority for balance

Minor changes to India and china would be easely done, like just nerf the military unit cards in fortress for china and for India reduce spoy hp, just these 2 changes
India and china are fine as they are, nerfing them would make them not strong enough.

@Garja: Didn''t you try to fix the 140f?
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Sometimes u get 1coureur in 1v1 games with just 4 black boars to kill!!!!
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Post by Garja »

ye on re maps. Also it's not possible to change the number of guardians or treasure sets with map scripting. You need to mod the proto files which isn't exactly what we want to do at the moment.
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But is possible to reduce the amout of the treasure??? lets say turning a 140 f to a 70 f

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