ESOC Patch Update & Tournament Information

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pecelot wrote:I'm pretty sure it's not the case, I've personally never seen 200c on EP, unless on Indonesia, Mongolia or some other maps.

yea my bad i meant 100c
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Kaiserklein wrote:Nah, you can have 100w 300f, 100w 200f 100g, 100w 300f 100g, 200w 200f or 200w 300f starts. It's the same for all civs, you basically have basis crates of 100w 200f, then to that you add 1 or 2 crates depending on the 5 possible starts : +100f, +100w, +100g, +100w 100f or +100g 100f. It's just that France used to have 100w 300f as a basis, now it has 100w 200f like germany and spain for example.


Personally i think it seems unnecessary put 100w 300f as a basis for France, it appears almost always and you can't build an early market or a TP in most of the games just like in RE.
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The RE basis is 300f 100w. EP basis is 200f 100w. It is entirely possible to do the exact same things you do on RE, simply without haveing 900f+ in the bank at your 14th villager.
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Garja wrote:The RE basis is 300f 100w. EP basis is 200f 100w. It is entirely possible to do the exact same things you do on RE, simply without haveing 900f+ in the bank at your 14th villager.


I know that it's possible, but just... Almost always when i play with France they start with 300f and 100w on EP, it would be good if it wasn't really frequent in most of the games, in RE are really frequent the 200w, 300f and the 100w 200f 100g starts and that's better in my opinion, and well, i never had that 300f, 100w start in RE, i don't know if somebody added it to EP, but it seems unnecessary in my opinion because you only can build a house with that start.
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That's totally random. The only difference on EP is that you have -100f to any possible start. 300f 100w is even getting the extra crate. Worst spawn is 200f 100w.
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Worst spawn is 200f + 100w + random crate. But then the opponent also only gets one random crate so its fine.
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Garja wrote:That's totally random. The only difference on EP is that you have -100f to any possible start. 300f 100w is even getting the extra crate. Worst spawn is 200f 100w.

200f 100w and nothing else is not a possible start.
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Re: ESOC Patch Update & Tournament Information

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Garja wrote:The RE basis is 300f 100w. EP basis is 200f 100w. It is entirely possible to do the exact same things you do on RE, simply without haveing 900f+ in the bank at your 14th villager.

Let's face it, on some starts you will have idle time... If you early TP with 200w 200f, or if you market on 100w 300f, you'll realistically have some significant idle time, unless you get a good treas.
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