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~ EP update // October 29th

Update imminent

Contents : Bug fix

Current state :
  • Making tapir not selectable : Done
  • Church improvement and Inquisition don't bring LOS to the tapir : Done
  • Fixing Howdah cost : Done
  • CIR doesn't affect dragoons : Done
  • Breastplate set to +10% : Done
  • Reverting Russian consulate to RE state : Done
  • Iroquois Tomahawk treasure doesn't snare : Done
  • Iroquois Warchief aura set to 15% hitpoints : Done

Additional changes :
By default, when you record a game on EP, the file is going to be named "EP recorded games" + number : Done

Thanks @Rikikipu for the hard work. Thanks to all who identified the new bugs.
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When can we expect update?
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Was CIR revert really a good idea?
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Yes. The patch notes aren't technically correct though. No matter, it's fine.

Thanks for the update and post!
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zoom wrote:Yes. The patch notes aren't technically correct though. No matter, it's fine.

Thanks for the update and post!

Weren't goons strong enough even with CIR bug? Especially in team?
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ovi12 wrote:Was CIR revert really a good idea?

well thats the question. CIR affecting goons is probably fine, however it wasnt in the patch notes, and i believe it was discussed within the team and was deemed as to hard of a nerf for goons instead we went with -10 rr
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lordraphael wrote:
ovi12 wrote:Was CIR revert really a good idea?

well thats the question. CIR affecting goons is probably fine, however it wasnt in the patch notes, and i believe it was discussed within the team and was deemed as to hard of a nerf for goons instead we went with -10 rr

I mean yeah you guys decided that, but after seeing it wasn't a too big of a nerf shouldn't they just leave it and change the patch notes?
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Selectable tapir? I dont understand.
Whats howdash cost?
I just realized in the tournament the cir changes lately. Is it just changed without notes? Same for breastplate and russian consulate.
Tomahawk only snare for iro civ?

So what the hells going on now?:D
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Dsy wrote:Selectable tapir? I dont understand.
Whats howdash cost?
I just realized in the tournament the cir changes lately. Is it just changed without notes? Same for breastplate and russian consulate.
Tomahawk only snare for iro civ?

So what the hells going on now?:D


The tapir refers to this: viewtopic.php?f=110&t=7440
Rest are reverts of unintended changes.
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Dsy wrote:Selectable tapir? I dont understand.
Whats howdash cost?
I just realized in the tournament the cir changes lately. Is it just changed without notes? Same for breastplate and russian consulate.
Tomahawk only snare for iro civ?

So what the hells going on now?:D

See eaglemut's post about the tapir.

Howdah's are supposed to cost 250f 350c, but for some reason they cost 350f 250c. This has been reverted.

The CIR/breastplate changes were implemented at some point in a beta but they were forgotten, probably because the patch team fell apart and we were transferring the coding from Buckethead to Riki. The patch team decided against these changes, so they have been reverted.

Read the OP again regarding the tomahawk. It only regards the tomahawk treasure. This tomahawk unit shouldn't be able to snare.
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ovi12 wrote:Was CIR revert really a good idea?

With CIR and goons 20% RR, skirms now need 8 shots instead of RE 13 shots to snipe a goon... This is just too much of a difference tbh.

I think 15% breastplate was fine though, a bit of a buff for archaic units that are kinda underused generally speaking.
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Mr_Bramboy wrote:There's a tapir in the middle of obs maps which is used for the UI. Due to a bug this tapir was selectable and therefore prevented players from dragboxing their units in the middle of the map. This has been fixed.

This is a bit incorrect, as the middle map tapir has nothing to do with Aizamk's OBS UI. The bug was on EP's side and affected literally all maps, including RE maps.
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Kaiserklein wrote:
ovi12 wrote:Was CIR revert really a good idea?

With CIR and goons 20% RR, skirms now need 8 shots instead of RE 13 shots to snipe a goon... This is just too much of a difference tbh.

I think 15% breastplate was fine though, a bit of a buff for archaic units that are kinda underused generally speaking.

Exactly, the CIR change isn't a bad idea per se but definitely is in comparison with the range resist nerf. Either this or this, and if you really want to nerf goons, you should stick to the RR decrease IMO, as it makes them more vulnerable to other ranged infantry units, too.
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Btw Noel was drunk when wrote this post? It cointains so many mispells... lol

So basicly only tomahawk treasure changed if i compare to the latest balance notes. But it mentioned strange way also. I guess it should look like "Tomawahk treasure doesn't snare" not "Tomawahk iroquois treasure doesn't snare". Thanks for infos anyway.
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Dsy wrote:Btw Noel was drunk when wrote this post? It cointains so many mispells... lol

It's just copy pasta from Riki's internal notes :P

However, you might have made even more missplelz right there.
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both Kaiser and Riki put space before „:", „?", „!" etc. :!:
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pecelot wrote:both Kaiser and Riki put space before „:", „?", „!" etc. :!:

french keyboards do it automatically afaik
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pecelot wrote:both Kaiser and Riki put space before „:", „?", „!" etc. :!:


French-speaking people like doing that for some reason, maybe it's the keyboard like Trevor said
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Kaiserklein wrote:
ovi12 wrote:Was CIR revert really a good idea?


I think 15% breastplate was fine though, a bit of a buff for archaic units that are kinda underused generally speaking.


Yes, make lbows viable to be offensive units pls
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Cometk wrote:
pecelot wrote:both Kaiser and Riki put space before „:", „?", „!" etc. :!:

french keyboards do it automatically afaik

interesting, as far as I know it's considered a typological mistake
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No keyboards don't do it by themselves unless you're using word or sth, however we do it without thinking about it because that's the way you write it in france. Less ugly like that anyway
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Kaiserklein wrote:No keyboards don't do it by themselves unless you're using word or sth, however we do it without thinking about it because that's the way you write it in france. Less ugly like that anyway

youre talking about this ? Thats how its supposed to be. Like this or sth,however we do itit would look really ugly. When i have to write an academic paper i always look out for those "mistakes"
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pecelot wrote:both Kaiser and Riki put space before „:", „?", „!" etc. :!:

I had at the college lessons about how to write on keyboards. And the teacher said : "every caracter made by 2 things (for instance ! = . and | ) got a space before and after it."
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Rikikipu wrote:
pecelot wrote:both Kaiser and Riki put space before „:", „?", „!" etc. :!:

I had at the college lessons ab9ut how to write on keyboards. And the teacher said : "everithing caracter made by 2 things (for instance ! = . and | ) got a space before and after it."


Hm so when you write:

Why is Ovi so OP ?

You put space between "OP" and "?" because they are each "one thing"? Why don't you put space before period (".") then?
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I don't know how to explain the "things in english. For instance "!" is made by 2 things, a point plus a line

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