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30 Dec 2016, 15:36

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zoom wrote:
Snuden wrote:What will be your main income stream?
Goodspeed, map & UI licences.


So in order to use a specific UI and map, one will have to pay?

That was a joke..
The main income stream is from stream donations.
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30 Dec 2016, 15:44

EAGLEMUT wrote:
Snuden wrote:
zoom wrote:
Snuden wrote:What will be your main income stream?
Goodspeed, map & UI licences.


So in order to use a specific UI and map, one will have to pay?

That was a joke..
The main income stream is from stream donations.


So was I :)
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30 Dec 2016, 15:58

Aizamk wrote:Since ESOC is a proper business now with a business team, I am considering charging yearly fees for UI 2.0 licenses. Don't worry, I will likely only start doing this next year so that there is plenty of time for you to hire a CFO.
Yesh?
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30 Dec 2016, 16:07

Snuden wrote:
zoom wrote:
Snuden wrote:What will be your main income stream?
Goodspeed, map & UI licences.


So in order to use a specific UI and map, one will have to pay?

No, zoi is always talking out of his ass. Our current "income" comes from donations and money made from ads on youtube. We invest all the money into tournaments and the forum, however. The staff consists of volunteers.
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30 Dec 2016, 16:10

Mr_Bramboy wrote:
Snuden wrote:
zoom wrote:
Snuden wrote:What will be your main income stream?
Goodspeed, map & UI licences.


So in order to use a specific UI and map, one will have to pay?

No, zoi is always talking out of his ass. Our current "income" comes from donations and money made from ads on youtube. We invest all the money into tournaments and the forum, however. The staff consists of volunteers.


Yea, I figured youtube income played a role...

I am just curious (since I am partner in a video advertising network) what your CPM and fill rates on Youtube?
Its cool if you dont want to disclose the CPM's :)
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30 Dec 2016, 16:10

Snuden wrote:
Mr_Bramboy wrote:
Snuden wrote:
zoom wrote:
Snuden wrote:What will be your main income stream?
Goodspeed, map & UI licences.


So in order to use a specific UI and map, one will have to pay?

No, zoi is always talking out of his ass. Our current "income" comes from donations and money made from ads on youtube. We invest all the money into tournaments and the forum, however. The staff consists of volunteers.


Yea, I figured youtube income played a role...

I am just curious (since I am partner in a video advertising network) what your CPM and fill rates on Youtube?
Its cool if you dont want to disclose the CPM's :)

Not sure, Jim handles the youtube for the most part so you should ask him.
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30 Dec 2016, 16:32

Mr_Bramboy wrote:
Snuden wrote:
zoom wrote:
Snuden wrote:What will be your main income stream?
Goodspeed, map & UI licences.


So in order to use a specific UI and map, one will have to pay?

No, zoi is always talking out of his ass. Our current "income" comes from donations and money made from ads on youtube. We invest all the money into tournaments and the forum, however. The staff consists of volunteers.
Volunteers he said :grin:
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30 Dec 2016, 16:34

Mimsy for President wrote:
Mr_Bramboy wrote:
Snuden wrote:
zoom wrote:
Snuden wrote:What will be your main income stream?
Goodspeed, map & UI licences.


So in order to use a specific UI and map, one will have to pay?

No, zoi is always talking out of his ass. Our current "income" comes from donations and money made from ads on youtube. We invest all the money into tournaments and the forum, however. The staff consists of volunteers.
Volunteers he said :grin:

What's so funny?
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30 Dec 2016, 16:38

Snuden wrote:I am just curious (since I am partner in a video advertising network) what your CPM and fill rates on Youtube?
Its cool if you dont want to disclose the CPM's :)

I can give you some interesting stats of the period during the Autumn tournament. In this period (September-November) I made sure there was (almost) daily content.

- During this period we had about 1k views per day.
- About 20k minutes watch-time per day. (Which is about 14 days)
- According to Google analytics we earned about €1,50 per day.

These numbers are not exact, but they are my interpretation of an average amount.
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30 Dec 2016, 16:41

MCJim wrote:
Snuden wrote:I am just curious (since I am partner in a video advertising network) what your CPM and fill rates on Youtube?
Its cool if you dont want to disclose the CPM's :)

I can give you some interesting stats of the period during the Autumn tournament. In this period (September-November) I made sure there was (almost) daily content.

- During this period we had about 1k views per day.
- About 20k minutes watch-time per day. (Which is about 14 days)
- According to Google analytics we earned about €1,50 per day.

These numbers are not exact, but they are my interpretation of an average amount.


Heh... :/
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30 Dec 2016, 16:43

Snuden wrote:
MCJim wrote:
Snuden wrote:I am just curious (since I am partner in a video advertising network) what your CPM and fill rates on Youtube?
Its cool if you dont want to disclose the CPM's :)

I can give you some interesting stats of the period during the Autumn tournament. In this period (September-November) I made sure there was (almost) daily content.

- During this period we had about 1k views per day.
- About 20k minutes watch-time per day. (Which is about 14 days)
- According to Google analytics we earned about €1,50 per day.

These numbers are not exact, but they are my interpretation of an average amount.


Heh... :/

Lol, PM me if you want additional information.
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30 Dec 2016, 16:52

MCJim wrote:
Snuden wrote:
MCJim wrote:
Snuden wrote:I am just curious (since I am partner in a video advertising network) what your CPM and fill rates on Youtube?
Its cool if you dont want to disclose the CPM's :)

I can give you some interesting stats of the period during the Autumn tournament. In this period (September-November) I made sure there was (almost) daily content.

- During this period we had about 1k views per day.
- About 20k minutes watch-time per day. (Which is about 14 days)
- According to Google analytics we earned about €1,50 per day.

These numbers are not exact, but they are my interpretation of an average amount.


Heh... :/

Lol, PM me if you want additional information.


I would be very interested in seeing requests, opportunities, GEOs, etc...
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30 Dec 2016, 18:15

So I've just received a threat from @n0el . For the sake of transparency, I need to share it with you.
I'm convinced it's a threat because it looks like it's been hastily written. If it was a warning, a conciliation meeting would have been involved, which is not the case here given @n0el 's speed of response.
@n0el Intimidation doesn't work on me.
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30 Dec 2016, 18:16

@n0el As a member of the Business Team...mind your business. Please let me remind you what's your job: "manage the ESOC finances, set the growth strategy and work to keep the teams focused on the strategy set forward."
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30 Dec 2016, 18:56

zoom wrote:3. There is an alarmingly common perception of ESOC moderating being unfair in consistency and severity. It is a controversial issue.

Although I agree that is a rather widespread opinion, I doubt its basis, as in reality it appears to me as if it was just a couple of loud and noisy people perceiving the neutral, unsophisticated and inexperienced ones.
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30 Dec 2016, 18:56

@Mimsy for President what threat? you attacked a mod and a staff member for no reason? it was a friendly reminder to be nice
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30 Dec 2016, 20:53

sircallen wrote:
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Mr_Bramboy wrote:Dear Sir Zoom,

Feel free to rephrase your post in English which doesn't require me to devote 30 seconds into comprehending and I might consider reading your beautiful great work of both writing and art.

With the utmost respect & regards,

Bramboozle.
As Ryan "Mad Mankl the Mad" Mancl has outlawed moderators, who will be making the moderator decisions "moving forward"?

Banning is bad. Biased moderating is bad. Transparency is good. All three are important issues.

Last, I am thankful towards ESOC staff, and understand that its job can be hard.

I am terrible at communicating. My bad!


The ESOC Community Team will be making moderating decisions.

Part of this rebranding is to bring forth those issues you mentioned in our now active moderation policy: unbiased actions, communication before banning, and an increased level of transparency
edeholland wrote:Because of the points you mention Zoom, we now have the community team (point 1). We want to take a positive approach and not be only banning policemen (point 2). We are starting with a new moderation policy where we will all agree on and we will have better supervision (point 3 & 4).
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and don't have nerf hard japan = noob patch2.0
because all more noob player at this patch = noob logic.
or they maybe have boyfriend.(japanese boyfriend fuck your ass them)
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30 Dec 2016, 21:03

Mimsy for President wrote:So I've just received a threat from @n0el . For the sake of transparency, I need to share it with you.
I'm convinced it's a threat because it looks like it's been hastily written. If it was a warning, a conciliation meeting would have been involved, which is not the case here given @n0el 's speed of response.
@n0el Intimidation doesn't work on me.
First, from what I understand, "Business Team" should be read "Administrators". Second, it looks like a board warning – formal (recorded) or informal. I would have worded myself more carefully, but depending on its basis, it's more or less reasonable.

Now, if you have a problem with a moderator decision, please send a pm to another administrator. Please stop trying to stir the pot all the time, and attempt to reflect your criticism by being constructive.
sudmakmak wrote:This patch Keshik don't have buff anti cavalry = noob patch2.0
and don't have nerf hard japan = noob patch2.0
because all more noob player at this patch = noob logic.
or they maybe have boyfriend.(japanese boyfriend fuck your ass them)
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30 Dec 2016, 21:07

pecelot wrote:
zoom wrote:3. There is an alarmingly common perception of ESOC moderating being unfair in consistency and severity. It is a controversial issue.

Although I agree that is a rather widespread opinion, I doubt its basis, as in reality it appears to me as if it was just a couple of loud and noisy people perceiving the neutral, unsophisticated and inexperienced ones.
Do you mean, for instance, "deceiving" or "influencing"?
sudmakmak wrote:This patch Keshik don't have buff anti cavalry = noob patch2.0
and don't have nerf hard japan = noob patch2.0
because all more noob player at this patch = noob logic.
or they maybe have boyfriend.(japanese boyfriend fuck your ass them)
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30 Dec 2016, 21:12

Yes, I fully mean so!
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30 Dec 2016, 21:25

zoom wrote:
Mimsy for President wrote:So I've just received a threat from @n0el . For the sake of transparency, I need to share it with you.
I'm convinced it's a threat because it looks like it's been hastily written. If it was a warning, a conciliation meeting would have been involved, which is not the case here given @n0el 's speed of response.
@n0el Intimidation doesn't work on me.
First, from what I understand, "Business Team" should be read "Administrators". Second, it looks like a board warning – formal (recorded) or informal. I would have worded myself more carefully, but depending on its basis, it's more or less reasonable.
I know that n0eL is dyslexic, but the whole crew?
It's clearly written "Business Team". No time for interpretation. Plus the mentioned tasks don't really match the Admin role

Now, if you have a problem with a moderator decision, please send a pm to another administrator. Please stop trying to stir the pot all the time, and attempt to reflect your criticism by being constructive.
Whom to ask? I see only Ernesto Guevaras here.

I'm constructive. It's just that to be consensual and neutral, you need to also criticize the one who might be right.
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30 Dec 2016, 21:54

Mimsy for President wrote:So I've just received a threat from @n0el . For the sake of transparency, I need to share it with you.
I'm convinced it's a threat because it looks like it's been hastily written. If it was a warning, a conciliation meeting would have been involved, which is not the case here given @n0el 's speed of response.
@n0el Intimidation doesn't work on me.


Being asked to curb obnoxious and/or incendiary behavior toward other users is not a threat. Let's not be dramatic.
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30 Dec 2016, 21:56

Less personal attacks against ESOC staff would surely help you in your nobel crusade to provide us with constructive criticism, Mimsy.
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30 Dec 2016, 22:15

@n0el
Not sure why are you talking about me as if you know me.

Not sure how you know me, unless it's from 3rd party sources, which I'm sure are very reliable. One-sided information is always reliable.
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30 Dec 2016, 22:54

Wellcome to the new team :)

Btw, @buckethead it's already February 2016?

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