Where can I see my warnings?

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Where can I see my warnings?

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I checked everywhere on my profile page and I can't find out where I stand in terms of warnings. Not sure how many I have right now. It also doesn't show up next to my username.

I also don't know when they'll expire either. :/

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Re: Where can I see my warnings?

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you get a massage ^^
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A message? I looked into it and I'm not sure where users can see a list of their warnings.
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KINGofOsmane wrote:you get a massage ^^


yeeah but there should be a little list somewhere telling you where you're at


i can't find it, so i don't know how many warnings i have

can a mod tell me please?
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You have 2. The number of warnings you have though isn't really all that important. Right now the warnings are only being used as a way to document each time the staff had to interact with a user.
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We are using a separate "warning level" system to determine the next action to take against a forum member that is causing problems.
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DivineFire wrote:You have 2. The number of warnings you have though isn't really all that important.


Lol that's horseshit

is it just a way to be more arbitrary as to when you're going to get rid of people you don't like?
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I just hope DE is not going to implement all of the EP changes. Right now it is a big clusterfuck.
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iNcog wrote:
DivineFire wrote:You have 2. The number of warnings you have though isn't really all that important.


Lol that's horseshit

is it just a way to be more arbitrary as to when you're going to get rid of people you don't like?

The warning system is a way too keep track of a user's infractions of rules. If you want to moderate someone for say, spamming forums, and you see that it has happened 5 times already recently because you carefully archived this, then you can consider changing your response a bit. That is a good thing, that way we know exactly who is doing what and that way rules can't repeatedly be ignored.

Maybe it shouldn't be a warning then, maybe we should just rename it to something else. Behaviourial notifiction? Something that carries less negativity as a warning does right now.. It's really not that negative it just means you did something wrong and that you should try to not do it next time.
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thank you for clearing that up, this makes a lot more sense to me

no problem on my end. same thing to the other thread where we discussed warnings
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iNcog wrote:
DivineFire wrote:You have 2. The number of warnings you have though isn't really all that important.


Lol that's horseshit

is it just a way to be more arbitrary as to when you're going to get rid of people you don't like?


Warning #3 incoming...

Seriously though, I have to object to an arbitrary "after 3 warnings you get a ban" type of system. When considering banning a user, staff should look at what they have actually been warned about in the past. Imo, staff should only ban users if they are repeat offenders (warned for the same thing multiple times, not once for many things) or if the user does something serious (death threats, publishing someone's personal information). Banning should be a last resort. Deleting offensive posts and warning the user should always come first.
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From the looks of it, it's not a strike system. So that should be reassuring somewhat. See jerom's post
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Im still super unsure on when to delete things. I can honestly just see the people saying don't delete or redact, thats censorship, while on the other hand I see the point that you might have the delete comments that completely derail or ruin a thread. No idea how that'd be handled properly without upsetting people.
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Just say "i deleted these posts because they were racial slurs", or "i deleted the comments which were mucking up the discussion, let's get back on topic and not ruin this thread".

Just use your common sense, you've got lots of that x)
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I would like a warnings tab appear on my profile. Usually I dont check messages.
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And what you (Incog) and others have failed to do so far is point out an instance of Divinefire not providing that basic disclaimer when he deletes posts or locks a thread ^^^^^^^^. Why does Jerom get the "you have common sense" pass and Divine doesn't? Is it because you just like him more? I also really like Jerom, but the double standard you seem to be applying here compared to your other arguments is just objectively ridiculous.
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lesllamas wrote:And what you (Incog) and others have failed to do so far is point out an instance of Divinefire not providing that basic disclaimer when he deletes posts or locks a thread ^^^^^^^^. Why does Jerom get the "you have common sense" pass and Divine doesn't? Is it because you just like him more? I also really like Jerom, but the double standard you seem to be applying here compared to your other arguments is just objectively ridiculous.


Jerom is someone who I have been encouraging to become an active moderator for a very long time, ever since he joined the media team, actually.

Divinefire is someone who is inflexible in how he moderates and thinks, instead of being understanding. Even H2O has told me that DF has a long way to go before become a fully-fledged, capable moderator of this community. I don't doubt that DF is enthusiastic, just that he needs to think carefully on how to moderate people (it's not easy to do) and think of the consequences of his dry and rigid moderation style. Calls are almost always subjective.
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I just hope DE is not going to implement all of the EP changes. Right now it is a big clusterfuck.
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noissance wrote:I would like a warnings tab appear on my profile. Usually I dont check messages.

yeah could be useful, your collection is quite disappointing though lol.

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iNcog wrote:
lesllamas wrote:And what you (Incog) and others have failed to do so far is point out an instance of Divinefire not providing that basic disclaimer when he deletes posts or locks a thread ^^^^^^^^. Why does Jerom get the "you have common sense" pass and Divine doesn't? Is it because you just like him more? I also really like Jerom, but the double standard you seem to be applying here compared to your other arguments is just objectively ridiculous.


Jerom is someone who I have been encouraging to become an active moderator for a very long time, ever since he joined the media team, actually.

Divinefire is someone who is inflexible in how he moderates and thinks, instead of being understanding. Even H2O has told me that DF has a long way to go before become a fully-fledged, capable moderator of this community. I don't doubt that DF is enthusiastic, just that he needs to think carefully on how to moderate people (it's not easy to do) and think of the consequences of his dry and rigid moderation style. Calls are almost always subjective.


And again, instead of providing an example, you attack his character. You basically just confirmed for me that you just dislike him as a person, and when prompted (as above) you still can't bring an example to the table where he didn't provide the common courtesy you said that Jerom needs to do to be a successful moderator.
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I'm not really interested in attacking DF's person, I've already criticized him enough (and I'm not the only one), poor little fellow could use a little breathing room.

There are plenty of examples which I've posted in the civil moderation discussion thread, no need to add more to that. My criticism also extends to other staff members, anyway. If I really must cite an example, then I think the handling of metis's "these guys were trolling me" thread was quite poor. It was one line, and a warning:

Accusations/which hunting of any kind are not welcome here on ESOC.


Bear in mind that metis left after that, told us why and that metis was unaware (as was I when I opened this thread) that warnings were not used as strikes. As a result, we've lost a community member who left on bad terms. Metis is a lot of things, but he is not a troll or a user which causes problems on forums. He's a very old-school member of the aoe3 community. this is very unfortunate.

I hope this example is clear enough, I'm not really interested in witch hunting DF or criticizing him as a person.
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So it should be made clear that warnings are not strikes? I'd have done the same thing as DF there honestly.
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It's not obvious at all, especially for people who don't post here frequently. They just get a pm saying they've been warned, they don't know it's just a flag. you can be sure that it rubs people the wrong way, unfortunately
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I just hope DE is not going to implement all of the EP changes. Right now it is a big clusterfuck.
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iNcog wrote:It's not obvious at all, especially for people who don't post here frequently. They just get a pm saying they've been warned, they don't know it's just a flag. you can be sure that it rubs people the wrong way, unfortunately

I honestly don't think metis is a fair case, he angrily left before over some other tiny thing (I think someone disagreed with him). But I suggested before to maybe change it from warning to another name. Suggestions?
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Jerom wrote:
iNcog wrote:It's not obvious at all, especially for people who don't post here frequently. They just get a pm saying they've been warned, they don't know it's just a flag. you can be sure that it rubs people the wrong way, unfortunately

I honestly don't think metis is a fair case, he angrily left before over some other tiny thing (I think someone disagreed with him). But I suggested before to maybe change it from warning to another name. Suggestions?


yeah metis was already strained due to previous mistakes (or were they? idk) made by esoc

could name it "flag" or something
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I'd be all for changing the name of the warning. People do overreact to what is essentially just archival.
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iNcog wrote:
Jerom wrote:
iNcog wrote:It's not obvious at all, especially for people who don't post here frequently. They just get a pm saying they've been warned, they don't know it's just a flag. you can be sure that it rubs people the wrong way, unfortunately

I honestly don't think metis is a fair case, he angrily left before over some other tiny thing (I think someone disagreed with him). But I suggested before to maybe change it from warning to another name. Suggestions?


yeah metis was already strained due to previous mistakes (or were they? idk) made by esoc

could name it "flag" or something

Not at all, had nothing to do with esoc for as far as I know. He just got angry someone disagreed with him and left because of the so-called trolls in off topic. When he came back he announced shortly afterwards that he wouldn't be visiting off topic anymore.

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