Forcing mods to give explanation of why they are closing reports

[Papist]

I read through it, and it still sounds just as ridiculous as it did 2 months ago. If you have a problem with a moderation decision, feel free to bring it to the attention of the team. But don't expect people to start writing page-long treatises just because you disagree with an action they took, lol.

[evilcheadar]

I read through it, and it still sounds just as ridiculous as it did 2 months ago. If you have a problem with a moderation decision, feel free to bring it to the attention of the team. But don't expect people to start writing page-long treatises just because you disagree with an action they took, lol.

The issue comes down to just some pretty bad general decision making

[evilcheadar]

Banning people needs to be reserved for only heinous offenses.

[yakuza]

We aren't against disagreeing.. We are against classification and partiality

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Disregarding all posts ITT, I think that moderators should be required to at least note on what grounds a report was closed, without going into detail. It's unacceptable to me that moderating decisions are made without stated basis, a lot like it's unacceptable that moderators handle cases involving themselves.

By the way, speaking of reports I am never able to read anything on their closures; it's all transparent or some shit. Is this the same for anyone else? @91

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@musketeer925

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@Buckethead

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[momuuu]

In that case I think that people that report have to give a detailed explanation of why they reported the post rather than about three words.

[evilcheadar]

We aren't against disagreeing.. We are against classification and partiality

yep

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I still don't get what's the problem. Somebody enlighten me.

[evilcheadar]

I still don't get what's the problem. Somebody enlighten me.

corruption, pm me for more info

[momuuu]

I still don't get what's the problem. Somebody enlighten me.

If you ever figure out can you pm me about it.

[evilcheadar]

I still don't get what's the problem. Somebody enlighten me.

If you ever figure out can you pm me about it.

pm me

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In that case I think that people that report have to give a detailed explanation of why they reported the post rather than about three words.

Not at all. In cases where it is found that there is nothing to be moderated, you simple close the report, remarking "case dismissed."

[Papist]

We aren't against disagreeing.. We are against classification and partiality

As in everyone on the team, and those who are partial usually have their decisions overturned if it comes to the attention on the team. So what's your point?

Also, if you want a debate in the public square every time a mod closes a report, this place is going to get gunked up pretty quickly. And like the public cheating accusations, I don't think people are coming to ESOC to read about how such and such mod closed someone's report. In the end, it is not at all reasonable to say staff members should give long-winded explanations every time they take action. If we did, it would drastically reduce the speed at which we can take action. If you want a more detailed response, send a PM to the mod who handled your case.

We have a choice: we can have an efficient moderating system in which a small group of people make judgement calls, or we can have a plebiscite every time we want to delete a post. I don't know about you, but the first one sounds way better to me (especially considering the issues we are handling are rarely of serious consequence, and people WILL get banned if they flaunt the rules long enough).

[91]

Disregarding all posts ITT, I think that moderators should be required to at least note on what grounds a report was closed, without going into detail. It's unacceptable to me that moderating decisions are made without stated basis, a lot like it's unacceptable that moderators handle cases involving themselves.

By the way, speaking of reports I am never able to read anything on their closures; it's all transparent or some shit. Is this the same for anyone else? @91

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@musketeer925

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@Buckethead

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i Can try to see if i can see it. I havent messed around with mod functionality but i do think documentation about warnings/bans is very important

[EAGLEMUT]

By the way, speaking of reports I am never able to read anything on their closures; it's all transparent or some shit. Is this the same for anyone else? @91

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@musketeer925

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@Buckethead

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Try CTRL+A to select the text, as a workaround.

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We aren't against disagreeing.. We are against classification and partiality

As in everyone on the team, and those who are partial usually have their decisions overturned if it comes to the attention on the team. So what's your point?

Also, if you want a debate in the public square every time a mod closes a report, this place is going to get gunked up pretty quickly. And like the public cheating accusations, I don't think people are coming to ESOC to read about how such and such mod closed someone's report. In the end, it is not at all reasonable to say staff members should give long-winded explanations every time they take action. If we did, it would drastically reduce the speed at which we can take action. If you want a more detailed response, send a PM to the mod who handled your case.

We have a choice: we can have an efficient moderating system in which a small group of people make judgement calls, or we can have a plebiscite every time we want to delete a post. I don't know about you, but the first one sounds way better to me (especially considering the issues we are handling are rarely of serious consequence, and people WILL get banned if they flaunt the rules long enough).

How is typing one or two words describing the reason for a moderating action "having a plebiscite???" I can't see how simply noting the basis on which an action is taken makes moderating less efficient. I can see how it would make it more efficient though...

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By the way, speaking of reports I am never able to read anything on their closures; it's all transparent or some shit. Is this the same for anyone else? @91

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@musketeer925

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@Buckethead

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Try CTRL+A to select the text, as a workaround.

A LITERAL GENIUS, TASTELESS!

[yakuza]

We aren't against disagreeing.. We are against classification and partiality

As in everyone on the team, and those who are partial usually have their decisions overturned if it comes to the attention on the team. So what's your point?

Also, if you want a debate in the public square every time a mod closes a report, this place is going to get gunked up pretty quickly. And like the public cheating accusations, I don't think people are coming to ESOC to read about how such and such mod closed someone's report. In the end, it is not at all reasonable to say staff members should give long-winded explanations every time they take action. If we did, it would drastically reduce the speed at which we can take action. If you want a more detailed response, send a PM to the mod who handled your case.

We have a choice: we can have an efficient moderating system in which a small group of people make judgement calls, or we can have a plebiscite every time we want to delete a post. I don't know about you, but the first one sounds way better to me (especially considering the issues we are handling are rarely of serious consequence, and people WILL get banned if they flaunt the rules long enough).

Hey, sorry mods, my mistake. Probably, my communication skills are weak.
I couldn't explain you what I meant with those simple 2 words.

As I for myself, didn't ask for any plebiscite or anything. I just asked for equality for all. everyone should be same for the mods. If my post counts as spam/ nonsense anything, a similar post by a "popular" guy here should be treated equally too.

[91]

We aren't against disagreeing.. We are against classification and partiality

As in everyone on the team, and those who are partial usually have their decisions overturned if it comes to the attention on the team. So what's your point?

Also, if you want a debate in the public square every time a mod closes a report, this place is going to get gunked up pretty quickly. And like the public cheating accusations, I don't think people are coming to ESOC to read about how such and such mod closed someone's report. In the end, it is not at all reasonable to say staff members should give long-winded explanations every time they take action. If we did, it would drastically reduce the speed at which we can take action. If you want a more detailed response, send a PM to the mod who handled your case.

We have a choice: we can have an efficient moderating system in which a small group of people make judgement calls, or we can have a plebiscite every time we want to delete a post. I don't know about you, but the first one sounds way better to me (especially considering the issues we are handling are rarely of serious consequence, and people WILL get banned if they flaunt the rules long enough).

Hey, sorry mods, my mistake. Probably, my communication skills are weak.
I couldn't explain you what I meant with those simple 2 words.

As I for myself, didn't ask for any plebiscite or anything. I just asked for equality for all. everyone should be same for the mods. If my post counts as spam/ nonsense anything, a similar post by a "popular" guy here should be treated equally too.

Testing theory

[IP Man]

Before mods were closing the reports, and now they just dont care.
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@musketeer925

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@_H2O

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@Papist

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@Jerom

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Can somebody explain to me why some users have protection and they can flame and insult everyone else in the community and still not get warned/banned?

[musketeer925]

Can somebody explain to me why some users have protection and they can flame and insult everyone else in the community and still not get warned/banned?

Because we're a team of volunteer mods with limited time and resources while there are numerous users intentionally trying to make moderating difficult for us.

We're doing our best, I promise. Do your best to ignore (don't reply to) and report users who you feel are breaking rules.

As for the "Ports for 1v1 play" thread you posted in recently and then reported a bunch of stuff out of, your public attack on another user is what derailed the entire thread. Had you just reported and ignored, the thread would have stayed on topic. If a report doesn't do anything please send me a PM and I'll get it taken care of. I just spent like 10 minutes deleting the shit out of that thread that making a public moderation complaint caused. That is not the most efficient way to deal with things.

[IP Man]

Can somebody explain to me why some users have protection and they can flame and insult everyone else in the community and still not get warned/banned?

Because we're a team of volunteer mods with limited time and resources while there are numerous users intentionally trying to make moderating difficult for us.

We're doing our best, I promise. Do your best to ignore (don't reply to) and report users who you feel are breaking rules.

As for the "Ports for 1v1 play" thread you posted in recently and then reported a bunch of stuff out of, your public attack on another user is what derailed the entire thread. Had you just reported and ignored, the thread would have stayed on topic. If a report doesn't do anything please send me a PM and I'll get it taken care of.

Its not only that thread. That same user keeps flaming and insulting other people in other threads too. Also, i didnt flame him or anything. I tried to have a civilized discussion with him, but he kept using insults for every single of his reply. I am pretty sure almost nobody who reads this forum wants to know and does not care how many people he have beaten on "his smurf".
This forum is not for him to measure his e-penis with other people, this forum is for people to talk about the game. When somebody asks for advice on this fourm, the first reply is him calling the poster a noob for "doing a specific strat".

[musketeer925]

Okay. Just report posts and PM me if they're not being dealt with. The user has been warned.

[pecelot]

That's good news honestly, he's so OP that I feel ashamed and want to get rid of him as soon as possible... Good job, musketeer!

[yakuza]

LOL. Good to know that I'm not the only one causing trouble for mods here