french against spanish ff

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french against spanish ff

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how to play against a spanish ff? most of the times i massed musk hus in colonial and it was pretty decent cause my opponent didn't defend the cannons too good. but is this the common way to play against a spanish ff or should i semi-ff or ff myself?
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Musk semi, siege the tower, age, go musk cuir falc.
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You can can really do whatever you want and just hold with cdb if things aren't looking good, although you probably want to find yourself in the fortress age at some point.
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Straight ff is the easiest way to win imo
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Send 4cdb and build rax first.
If he build front tower, or you can easily kill his tp, train 10 musk or pike to kikl them, then 700g age up.
If not, just 4cdb, 700w, go age 3 directly.
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Couprider wrote:Send 4cdb and build rax first.
If he build front tower, or you can easily kill his tp, train 10 musk or pike to kikl them, then 700g age up.
If not, just 4cdb, 700w, go age 3 directly.

no way you get the tower with 10 musk
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Re: french against spanish ff

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Diarouga wrote:The ff

A very strong strat, fast and precise, if you know you won't be able to take the TP line but won't be killed by a colonial timing, this strategy is fit for the situation.

Age 1: Get a TP and a market, no matter what the crate start is. You will age with 15 coureurs (it's not an issue at all when you do that strategy), pick the 400w politician.

While aging: Get the gold upgrade, and keep 25w. Split your vills between food and gold.
From the 400w, build a TP and a house, and get steel traps. Send 4 vills, followed by 700w. When you have enough resources, go to the 3rd age with the exiled prince, and then just go for the standard skirm/goon composition.


Spain: Against Spain, many French players do a 10 musk semi ff and wait in base with there musks, I disagree with that. To me opting for the ff makes a lot more sense.
About the composition, you can either train musks/cuirs (yes, it's not too good to train musketeers in age 3 but Spain will send cav and pike shipments, so why not?), or goons from double stables (very risky, though).
Your two falc shipment is key here, if you lose it for free you'll have a very hard time, but if you kill his then you've won.
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