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I kinda do this all the time. Also I think Soldier plays xbow/pike often enough.
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Garja wrote:I kinda do this all the time. Also I think Soldier plays xbow/pike often enough.

What I mean is I would like to se this like in a ttm like enviorment. Nothing else going on, just equal res invested on both sides
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Garja wrote:I kinda do this all the time. Also I think Soldier plays xbow/pike often enough.

You usually play aztec which is better units, and soldier plays germany which gets uhlans and is OP anyway.
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Yes but does it cha ge the point on how to micro the units? I think we are refering to fre mirror here anyway. Also Germans without untouched semi FF are far from OP.
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P i k i l i c wrote:What about training Cherokee Riflemen or Seminole Sharktooth Bowmen instead of xbows?

Seminole Bowmen aren't that superior (if even) to regular crossbowmen, so I'd rather go for Cherokee Riflemen, if I were to choose out of these two tribes :hmm:

yes, their techs are more useful, too! :smile: But I mean, xbows seem a bit UP to me :? and Natives a bit underused :sad:
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Garja wrote:Yes but does it cha ge the point on how to micro the units? I think we are refering to fre mirror here anyway. Also Germans without untouched semi FF are far from OP.

I understand your point about how to micro them, and this way its plausible that bow pike will win vs musk huss. But I was just pointing out that you or soldier winning with the combo is not proof, because you use mace+puma which is better than bow+pike, and soldier plays germany which also has free uhlans. So yeah french mirror would be the best thing.

Also when the armies get big on both sides, there is still the problem that you can't attack move bows, because they'll just hit hussars, which is what the other player wants. On the other hand, its ok for the musks to shoot either bows or pikes, either one is good; unless maybe you are super good at doing cover mode pike.
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forgrin wrote:I imagine French mirror on Carolina will be all about hunt and tp control, so if you have that you win.

I don't think TPs will matter in a french mirror on carolina. If you can establish a forward base you win I think.

Depends how long the game goes. I just meant "tp control" in a vague sense because almost all the mines are along the TP line too. If you secure an advantage in map control early then you can H20 it and play the Stagecoach attrition game until their only hunt runs out #carolina
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I don't think you can do a stagecoach play on Carolina :ugeek:
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You definitely cant do stagecoach on carolina. I dont even know if 4 cdb is worth it. Id do xbow pike 700w 8 bow 600w I think.
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Just play jap imo. Insane civ on Carolina
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gibson wrote:Just play jap imo. Insane civ on Carolina

Or India.
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dicktator_ wrote:
gibson wrote:Just play jap imo. Insane civ on Carolina

Or India.

Japan can only get like 100 shrine pop on hunts so yeah India (unless water ofc).
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No Japan is I think hands down one of the best civs on Carolina. Two matchups that they really struggle with, Russia and brit, are a whole lot easier, although India becomes possibly harder. But they're a civ that's just really good on low hunt water maps.
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forgrin wrote:
dicktator_ wrote:
gibson wrote:Just play jap imo. Insane civ on Carolina

Or India.

Japan can only get like 100 shrine pop on hunts so yeah India (unless water ofc).
lol low hunt maps are better for jap.....
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gibson wrote:
forgrin wrote:
dicktator_ wrote:Or India.

Japan can only get like 100 shrine pop on hunts so yeah India (unless water ofc).
lol low hunt maps are better for jap.....

unless you are going kami, which is a big mistake

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