Anti aztec stuff

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Aztec can boom 10wp 5v directly, then spam tons of coyote mace puma to wait for spain's timing. It works sometimes vs lordpiroshki, but you also need to scout (he may go age 4 revolt lol).
A semiff (skull/warchief age 2), 3wp-600g-600w-6 arrow knight may also work. Not quite sure. It's easy to kill the falconets, but not that easy to deal with massive skirmishers: so warchief age up may be better. Even if the cover mode is removed in EP, the area damage is still quite useful.
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I tried to do that but it just doesn't work.
Honestly you can't even reach the 3rd age against a Spain ff.
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honestly piro ff is so ez to beat with aztec lol.
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tedere12 wrote:honestly piro ff is so ez to beat with aztec lol.

bo?
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lemmings121 wrote:
tedere12 wrote:honestly piro ff is so ez to beat with aztec lol.

bo?

Ff against piro
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lemmings121 wrote:
tedere12 wrote:honestly piro ff is so ez to beat with aztec lol.

bo?

I just danced with wp and pulled them in battle together will all my shit so he lost everything but he has 15 vills behind so he cant remass like me
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aztec make lots of infantry so something like flamethrowers or cannons or grenadier could work.
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Testingham1234 wrote:aztec make lots of infantry so something like flamethrowers or cannons or grenadier could work.

interesting, never tried flamethrowers vs aztec. They might be good
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They work surprisingly well. Even vs coyote runners
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Testingham1234 wrote:aztec make lots of infantry so something like flamethrowers or cannons or grenadier could work.

Why would grenadiers be a good choice? :hmm:
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Don't make grens ;)
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tedere12 wrote:
lemmings121 wrote:
tedere12 wrote:honestly piro ff is so ez to beat with aztec lol.

bo?

I just danced with wp and pulled them in battle together will all my shit so he lost everything but he has 15 vills behind so he cant remass like me

lol when i play like you, and wait for his push, he just go age 4 revolt and $&*() me LOL
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pecelot wrote:
Testingham1234 wrote:aztec make lots of infantry so something like flamethrowers or cannons or grenadier could work.

Why would grenadiers be a good choice? :hmm:

Idk man 10 grens can beat 20 mace ez
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tedere12 wrote:
Testingham1234 wrote:aztec make lots of infantry so something like flamethrowers or cannons or grenadier could work.

interesting, never tried flamethrowers vs aztec. They might be good


No, keep in mind coyote runners have the light infantry tag and no infantry tag while flame throwers have a negative multiplier against LI and a big bonus vs units with the infantry tag.
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noissance wrote:
pecelot wrote:
Testingham1234 wrote:aztec make lots of infantry so something like flamethrowers or cannons or grenadier could work.

Why would grenadiers be a good choice? :hmm:

Idk man 10 grens can beat 20 mace ez


10 huss too, for the same price :p
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I think ep did some ninja buff to flame throwers. Might actually be worth testing vs civs with a lot of clumped up low hp units.
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lemmings121 wrote:
noissance wrote:
pecelot wrote:Why would grenadiers be a good choice? :hmm:

Idk man 10 grens can beat 20 mace ez


10 huss too, for the same price :p

*9 huss
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pecelot wrote:*9 huss


uhmmmm arent grens 120/80 too?
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pecelot wrote:http://ageofempires.wikia.com/wiki/Grenadier
:roll:


oh well, YEARS using this unit everygame and i still messed up ;(
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pecelot wrote:*9 huss

9,5 if ever.
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Aztec and many other natives are weak to artillery. If you can make it to fortress or beyond, make artillery and position a couple cav behind his army in case he has arrow knights. Be careful of coyotes because they can easily sneak up on your cannons too, and without cannons, his 3 unit comp is much better than yours.
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If you go heavy on cav and a few infantry units to snipe of his pumas as Kaiser suggested, would you go xbow/huss rather than musk/huss? It seems like a much better comp, but gathering wood is... ugh.
Pay more attention to detail.
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Gendarme wrote:If you go heavy on cav and a few infantry units to snipe of his pumas as Kaiser suggested, would you go xbow/huss rather than musk/huss? It seems like a much better comp, but gathering wood is... ugh.

I think you're right at both parts, you don't want to be gathering 3 resources for a mediocre comp. If he decides to age behind a rush and mix ERK's, you lose the game.
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What do you think about France vs Aztec ? For example consider the qs maps.
1What france does on tp map with hight hunt
2What france does on non tp map with high hunt
3What france does on tp map with low hunt
4What france does on non tp map with low hunt.

Also how to each styles of aztec play how to play against FI builds how to be sure he does it if its 3WP first or something like that how to respond to water play and how to respond to skull oppenings.

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