Scout rush!!!

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Scout rush!!!

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WTF can i do vs this crap? :shock:

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Haha I love that troll build
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You just make units, I guess? Scouts are not that good, they need a fire pit and at least one card to be pulled off, everything seems to beat it :?

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Consider not the one who speaks the truth, but the truth that is said

:hmm: AoE logic :hmm:
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dopps destroy scouts
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Never actually player vs it, but it just seems bad. They are quite expensive, train pretty slow, you need to wait for a card before you can train them. Just make units and kill the scouts. :)
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666_X wrote:dopps destroy scouts

nah - think you are wrong :lol:
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Lol i need to learn this build, enough india laming!
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hahaha smurfing and doing a Sioux scout rush + china 10/10 is simply OP with no counter.
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I lost to this playing dutch semi...their mass gets big and you cant really run away with ruyters because of the warchief :(

I guess the secret is to take down their Nat TP if you gave him enough time to start making these
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lolol

i have scout rushed all day

its pretty fun strat but cav , walls , cm , improved building , killing my chief , prolonging the game , playing ports , japan wins. and Germany.
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Scout has the same tag as skirmishers. But they're better at melee fightings.
As german you just train dopple and they beat scouts easily.
cav+musk, strong melee infantry (dopple, halberdier), and cannon can beat scouts. but skirm/xbow/pike/dragoons lose to them.
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Yeah but normally Sioux made Bow riders , on re. So people dont really make Calvary for me. And the moment i make scouts i stealth mode them. But i normally lose.
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lol wat germans getting rushed by sioux?
is this an alternative timeline thread in a parallel universe where this actually works?
where am i right now?
im so confused.

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edit: also vs age 2 sioux on GP you can just make comancheros?
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Why only Sioux? Everyone can make Comancheros! :flowers:
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So if was nerfed in EP good but i was playing in normal TAD i think is OP
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Kikematamitos wrote:So if was nerfed in EP good but i was playing in normal TAD i think is OP


It really isn't.
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@Kikematamitos Even I can see this is not OP, once you scout it, just send units shipments. Uhlans and dopplesdonders would do fine. I have lost to some troll strategies myself. But the only reason they worked is because of my lack of scouting. If a troll strategy beats you , doesn't mean its OP.

People around our rank tend to not scout well, I am guilty of it too at times. This is the only reason some troll builds work.
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Please comment only if you had experience vs this looks like nobody have experience vs this, i figure the only way to stop it is cut the flow of wood any of what i read here have sense except that is a OP and lame tactic and the comancheros but the last one is hard because don't give you time for that or maybe is just very very hard.
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It doesn't take that much knowledge to know how to counter it, we all give just general tips for you that seem necessary. :flowers:
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They key to stop this strat is to scout it (although you might be the one scouted by the scouts :D ). Once you've noticed it all you need to do is switch to training cavalry. Scouts rekt inf but don't do so well vs cav. If you are unable to gather because of the pressure you have to wall your hunts and gold mine so you can keep training cav. Try not to lose too many vills and you will win because while he is training the native scouts in the TC he can't train vills so his eco is pretty bad (all vills on wood :wood: + Stagecoach's TPs on wood as well). Make sure to keep your hero around your unprotected vills to uncover the stealthy scouts and once they have been uncovered chase them down with your cav so they can't hide again.

nilfixs played this same strat vs me few days ago. I attach the recorded game if you want to have a look. It is def not OP, just don't panic and adapt to it. :smile:

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tbh that was like my 2nd time doing it, its alot better now. but yea quick adapt to cav win ez

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GruntGG wrote:They key to stop this strat is to scout it (although you might be the one scouted by the scouts :D ). Once you've noticed it all you need to do is switch to training cavalry. Scouts rekt inf but don't do so well vs cav. If you are unable to gather because of the pressure you have to wall your hunts and gold mine so you can keep training cav. Try not to lose too many vills and you will win because while he is training the native scouts in the TC he can't train vills so his eco is pretty bad (all vills on wood :wood: + Stagecoach's TPs on wood as well). Make sure to keep your hero around your unprotected vills to uncover the stealthy scouts and once they have been uncovered chase them down with your cav so they can't hide again.

nilfixs played this same strat vs me few days ago. I attach the recorded game if you want to have a look. It is def not OP, just don't panic and adapt to it. :smile:

Cheers!

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I've had experience vs it. It is very bad. The person cannot train villagers because scouts come from the TC. I have also done it before but never with Sioux.

This troll build was best back when iro was really strong and could great house. That way you could make 3 tcs to make scouts and villagers.

Just make doppels and ulhan vs the scouts. Mix bows if he adds bow riders.

Stay in your base and play the time game. He can't make villagers while making scouts.
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I thought you can train them from native embassy building?

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