Japanese anti-Aztec build

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the samurai killed the forward tower of gua
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Well if you scout properly that the jap guy ages up with samurai, and if you use correctly your explorer to shoot at the samurai or snare it, I don't see it achieving anything. Especially vs azzy, they age up so fast and will have their explo upgraded to age 2 + some pets + warhut up really early so you should actually probs keep the samurai in base and use it to cover yumis early on
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Well aoe would be awfully boring if each player was fully capable and actually performed to a flawless level.

It's all theory, theory, theory until the game actually starts and shit starts to happen.
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That's why I always open with 1. a4
Pay more attention to detail.
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1.a4??
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No. 1. a4!!
Pay more attention to detail.
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https://youtu.be/YJsy76M9WuA
For the people that are doubting dyddyd's tactical insights, here is dyddyd beating one of the top tier aztec players in a tournament setting.

I would like to add that if its a 300w start and youre getting a consulate anyways, that its probably better to age with the toshugu shrine either way. But otherwise I can see where the torii gates idea is coming from for sure. Also, although not showcased as well as it couldve been in that last game, yumi samurai is a serious composition against aztec. It could be better than anything else. Japans army trashes aztecs army with this in my experience, if you survive samurais are the perfect tool to break the fb too.
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Just train naginata, send 3samurai×2, cav+7samurai+5club can easily destroy russia/aztec
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Tori idea is old. Shouldnt work. There isnt really a build that should work on paper. But since Japan has so many potential advantages over other civs (including aztecs) there is often a way out to win.
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just another lagger and alt-d cheater. and who knows what else since this guy doesn't want his games recorded. ofcourse you can come up with anything when you play japan and lag. and still he loses 70% of his games vs top players. what a pathetic case.
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you know you can be such a twat sometimes?
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princeofkabul wrote:you know you can be such a twat sometimes?


i dont care. i have 0 respect for players like him, who cheat and then act like theyre super op. Kynesie was just like him. he can only play one civ. he's fucking terrible at everything else. he's pretty creative with his strats, which is a good thing. but he cheats, even on his stream rofl, and he lags like a bitch. those are just facts. you can do with it what you want.
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haha hadrianu is uemu confirmed!!!!! after losing to my torii as iro he talking like this!!!
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lol thats not me. i would not lose a single game vs you. we can play bo7 esoc rules if you want. you would lose 5-0.
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how about japan iro in re bo 5?
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Need to finish vs breeze first @deleted_user
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since when does he cheat?
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Garja wrote:since when does he cheat?

Hes referring to alt d i think
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ah ok, well thats cheating
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Garja wrote:Tori idea is old. Shouldnt work. There isnt really a build that should work on paper. But since Japan has so many potential advantages over other civs (including aztecs) there is often a way out to win.

I like the idea of the Shogunate age up. Combined with a tp start, you can have 2 shipments in age1 and even 3 upon aging, depending on the treasures you got. Not sure about a standard card order, but it's a strong and flexible build againt many rushes. Also military units are cheaper so you can get away with less eco. (quoted you bc i saw it in your stream)
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BrookG wrote:
Garja wrote:Tori idea is old. Shouldnt work. There isnt really a build that should work on paper. But since Japan has so many potential advantages over other civs (including aztecs) there is often a way out to win.

I like the idea of the Shogunate age up. Combined with a tp start, you can have 2 shipments in age1 and even 3 upon aging, depending on the treasures you got. Not sure about a standard card order, but it's a strong and flexible build againt many rushes. Also military units are cheaper so you can get away with less eco. (quoted you bc i saw it in your stream)

Do you get a daimyo when aging with it or is that only starting at age 3?
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Jerom wrote:
BrookG wrote:
Garja wrote:Tori idea is old. Shouldnt work. There isnt really a build that should work on paper. But since Japan has so many potential advantages over other civs (including aztecs) there is often a way out to win.

I like the idea of the Shogunate age up. Combined with a tp start, you can have 2 shipments in age1 and even 3 upon aging, depending on the treasures you got. Not sure about a standard card order, but it's a strong and flexible build againt many rushes. Also military units are cheaper so you can get away with less eco. (quoted you bc i saw it in your stream)

Do you get a daimyo when aging with it or is that only starting at age 3?

Not sure, prolly not
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Re: Japanese strat(Anti aztec build)

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You don't get it in colonial (would be op if you think that daymo is a whole shipment). You get 400xp instead of 300xp tho.
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