Stagecoaching early isn't even that good

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XP is the game's most valuable resource until 9 min or so. It's probably worth getting those extra xp passes in before upgrading to stagecoach so that you have that important crate sooner or have an age 3 shipment when you ff or you can ship your unit shipment earlier to hold a timing or something else. I was playing a game today that Kaiser commentated and in-game I remember I macro'd wrong and didn't stagecoach as early as I'd like but when I eventually aged I had an age 3 shipment available that Kaiser didn't think I'd have which turned out to be way more meaningful than a few hundred extra resources that I didn't even have the infrastructure to put into units.

This just dawned on me - I could be totally wrong though.
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You can stagecoach and keep them on xp. Mind = blown
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o fuq i didn't even think of that

classic case of being tunnel vision'd in the meta. i've always been taught when stagecoaching to switch to resources so i always do no matter what that I almost forgot you can just leave on xp

xp is kind of a diminishing return but is always worth the most at the start of each age. Maybe some advanced macro would be switching between xp and res when you can to hit better timings.
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U can stagecoach 'n' number of TPs , and when u do u get a pass of XP on each just due to stagecoaching. + After stagecoaching , u can keep them on xp .. CALLEN GOT REKT ... :P
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Name change request:
SirCallen -> ColonelCallen
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You get a free pass of xp as ssaraf said, and if you put it on resources spending those resources generates some xp for you as well. So in the end you're net gaining no matter what if you get stagecoach, regardless of when you get it. (As long as you have as many TPs ofc, and they're defendable, and your opponent doesn't have any).
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Wait... stagecoach is mini-mercantillism?!
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Wow didnt know that xp punch.
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Mitoe wrote:You get a free pass of xp as ssaraf said, and if you put it on resources spending those resources generates some xp for you as well. So in the end you're net gaining no matter what if you get stagecoach, regardless of when you get it. (As long as you have as many TPs ofc, and they're defendable, and your opponent doesn't have any).

to paraphrase the mankl he said "to be truly good you have to start thinking differently and differentiating yourself from your peers"

sorry but youre wrong and zuta is right. colonelcallen incoming.
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That nickname change was fast! I hope for you that you get there (Colonel) also that fast.
If you see any mistakes in my grammar/vocabulary or whatever, please correct me. I really appreciate it :!: :flowers:
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Mameluke wrote:I hope for you that you get there (Colonel) also that fast.

you hope I download and use mosebar cheats?
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Zutazuta wrote:Name change request:
SirCallen -> ColonelCallen

Your wish is my command.
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ColonelCallen wrote:
Mameluke wrote:I hope for you that you get there (Colonel) also that fast.

you hope I download and use mosebar cheats?

You can do it without cheating, I believe in you.
If you see any mistakes in my grammar/vocabulary or whatever, please correct me. I really appreciate it :!: :flowers:
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Can you also believe in my ability to overcome irl strifes?
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That would be delusional.
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ColonelCallen wrote:Can you also believe in my ability to overcome irl strifes?

If h2o coaches you yes, definitely.
If you see any mistakes in my grammar/vocabulary or whatever, please correct me. I really appreciate it :!: :flowers:
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ColonelCallen wrote:XP is the game's most valuable resource until 9 min or so. It's probably worth getting those extra xp passes in before upgrading to stagecoach so that you have that important crate sooner or have an age 3 shipment when you ff or you can ship your unit shipment earlier to hold a timing or something else. I was playing a game today that Kaiser commentated and in-game I remember I macro'd wrong and didn't stagecoach as early as I'd like but when I eventually aged I had an age 3 shipment available that Kaiser didn't think I'd have which turned out to be way more meaningful than a few hundred extra resources that I didn't even have the infrastructure to put into units.

This just dawned on me - I could be totally wrong though.


Stagecoaching early is awesome, but you shouldnt always change it to recourses. You can up stagecoach and leave it on xp. I do this with civs that rely on shipments often. Sioux, china or otto for example. Setting the tps to res does indirectly give you xp as well though, because you build more stuff
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ColonelCallen wrote:o fuq i didn't even think of that

classic case of being tunnel vision'd in the meta. i've always been taught when stagecoaching to switch to resources so i always do no matter what that I almost forgot you can just leave on xp

xp is kind of a diminishing return but is always worth the most at the start of each age. Maybe some advanced macro would be switching between xp and res when you can to hit better timings.


I often switch to xp again at the last min, to get that shipment a little faster. Especially when i want to send mercs, have the 1000c but no shipment
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Ye often xp is just better. Also stagecoach does cost some resources and with let's say just 2 TPs it takes quite some to break even.
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Next level shit would be knowing when to begin researching stagecoach so that it gets researched right after the trav-wa man passes a TP


...for each map.
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Garja wrote:Ye often xp is just better. Also stagecoach does cost some resources and with let's say just 2 TPs it takes quite some to break even.


yes, with 2 tps it might, but if timed properly, on many maps you gain like 300 xp just by upgrading to stagecoach, which is awesome. on GL you can sometimes get 1000 xp.

if youre not at risk of losing tps stagecoach is almost always a good investment
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Timing stagecoach as you finish the last tp in order to get a full bump of experience is one of the best aoe3 feelings. The research time for stagecoach is pretty long compared to other early techs

PS: you also get about a shipment or more of xp so switching to resources is fine since you have a bunch of xp stacking up
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İf the resources that is given by the coach is 270~ its realy usefull
Note: İn unknown maps just make tp
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It takes a lot longer to get each pass if the resources given are 270, though. Another reason Great Lakes is pure cancer.
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GL is amazing as long as there is more than one mine on the entire map

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