You Can't Out-Scale Japan - Stop Trying

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It just doesn't work

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Pike semi ff - boomed to 200/200 pop and killed literally all his shrines on the map's hunts. Had full map control. Aged. Took stagecoach. He was shrining in back of base on no animals but won b.c. he got to age IV. You simply cannot afford to not rush Japan.
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boyyy you crazy for trying that.
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Confirms my experience as well. If your initial push fails, you might as well resign.
Japan will outboom you. Makes it a frustrating civ to play against imo.
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If he could go to industrial that quickly than you definitely did something wrong. Semi ff builds can work against Japan really really well, you just need to have a really tight and strong timing, as well as a good composition (lots of falcs)
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On 2nd graph I see 3 huge defeats. Micro problems?
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Why would you even go age 3?
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Sometimes I wonder if brit is not even more a joke than japan. When I see that 50% of captains/major play this civ, I think so
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Jerom wrote:Why would you even go age 3?

Going 3 depending on the map is just the safest play. You use to be faster than japan, so the 2 falcs are unbreakabe.
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Well you can't outscale anyone with 600w :)

But yes it is a good idea to pressure the Japan rather than sitting back.

A water boom might be the one thing that would outscale Japan tbh.
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well you can't help but make musks in age 3 vs yumi, gl with that
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from my experience, a really good semi-ff bo against japan is vc-700w-700c-2 falc-10lb. If you can afford to get a TP you can go 3v-vc-700w-700c. Train 5 musks or pikes (musks are easier to macro), then age with 7 lb. Get a second rax in transition, as well as 10 more musks or longbows, and 400w and coin for vet ups on your inf, train another batch before your falcs come, and then you should be ready to push at about 9 mins with 15 musk, 17 lb, and 2 falcs. I normally just follow it up with 10 longbows and 9 musk and try to sit near him and never let him settle.
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such an ez mu lol
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I don't understand the point of doing a semi vs japan, you are basically delaying your build, making useless units and the more the game goes on in the 2nd age the more japan benefits. Imo its better to either commit in age 2 or go soon in age 3 (naked). It is really easy to read japan so if he tries to punish you in age 2, you can easily defend that.
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tedere12 wrote:I don't understand the point of doing a semi vs japan, you are basically delaying your build, making useless units and the more the game goes on in the 2nd age the more japan benefits. Imo its better to either commit in age 2 or go soon in age 3 (naked). It is really easy to read japan so if he tries to punish you in age 2, you can easily defend that.

They were playing on Siberia maybe that's why he opted not to go for age 2 commitment
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had you played on SirCallen you would have won, hes jsut the superior human being compared to Ktrain
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easiest game of my dfamn life
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gibson wrote:easiest game of my dfamn life

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gibson wrote:easiest game of my dfamn life


THE MAD MAN! HE'S DONE IT!
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KINGofOsmane wrote:such an ez mu lol

i just wanted to ask u why u even posting? im reading in this forum maybe 2 years now and all i can see is shitposts like this. how can u read urself 2460 times... aren't u depressed by ur comments yet?
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agrondergermane wrote:
KINGofOsmane wrote:such an ez mu lol

i just wanted to ask u why u even posting? im reading in this forum maybe 2 years now and all i can see is shitposts like this. how can u read urself 2460 times... aren't u depressed by ur comments yet?

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agrondergermane wrote:
KINGofOsmane wrote:such an ez mu lol

i just wanted to ask u why u even posting? im reading in this forum maybe 2 years now and all i can see is shitposts like this. how can u read urself 2460 times... aren't u depressed by ur comments yet?

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sebnan12 wrote:
agrondergermane wrote:
KINGofOsmane wrote:such an ez mu lol

i just wanted to ask u why u even posting? im reading in this forum maybe 2 years now and all i can see is shitposts like this. how can u read urself 2460 times... aren't u depressed by ur comments yet?

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dat karma broooo
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