Beating ports with India

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Beating ports with India

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I'm having trouble (read: pretty much never) beating ports with India.

Flail elephants get caught by cm, if I go ff myself I get outboomed.

Anyway, ports are my new japan. :dry:

Help would be welcome! :chinese:
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Ports need a lot of food
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Go FI :flowers:
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tedere12 wrote:Ports need a lot of food


So contain them?
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grenadier rush would be nice but remember at this level they would spend a lot of money on ageing. I would sepoy rush and use brit cons.
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I would start slow agra sepoy rush into semi-ff and contain and then try to kill them in age 3 with gurkha/zamb/urumi. You can also go for consulate rush if your macro is on point.
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Asateo wrote:
tedere12 wrote:Ports need a lot of food


So contain them?
Yes, starve, sit on hunts etc. General anti-Ports 101 :smile:
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Darwin_ wrote:I would start slow agra sepoy rush into semi-ff and contain and then try to kill them in age 3 with gurkha/zamb/urumi. You can also go for consulate rush if your macro is on point.

Aging up as india vs port probably the worst idea for India imo
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tedere12 wrote:
Darwin_ wrote:I would start slow agra sepoy rush into semi-ff and contain and then try to kill them in age 3 with gurkha/zamb/urumi. You can also go for consulate rush if your macro is on point.

Aging up as india vs port probably the worst idea for India imo

Definetly true on the EP. In quicksearch and RE I have been able to age up as India to some success.
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tedere12 wrote:
Darwin_ wrote:I would start slow agra sepoy rush into semi-ff and contain and then try to kill them in age 3 with gurkha/zamb/urumi. You can also go for consulate rush if your macro is on point.

Aging up as india vs port probably the worst idea for India imo

So would rushing be.
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trying to bait mms early with some military presence and hit the timings later
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In RE just semiff and send 2 siege elephant. In EP it's difficult, but if you can starve him in mid fortress you can still win this. Port have better eco but you have better units.

Port can always send CM first (if he sees forward agra) without losing much eco (they dont have 3v anyway), so any kind of colonial play can't really beat a 2TC+cm port imo.
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So heres my few ideas: You can actually go for a stagecoach semi ff in this match up I think. Skip the market upgrades in transition for a TP and get that second one soon too, then go 600w 300e 600g, put a lot of vills on the wonder. If ports does atp, you just get that one TP and do a sepoy rush or maybe even a consulate rush, let him upgrade that tp line for you while profiting from it with your 1 TP.
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fei123456 wrote:In RE just semiff and send 2 siege elephant. In EP it's difficult, but if you can starve him in mid fortress you can still win this. Port have better eco but you have better units.

Port can always send CM first (if he sees forward agra) without losing much eco (they dont have 3v anyway), so any kind of colonial play can't really beat a 2TC+cm port imo.


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try high skill strat called consulate rush
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Why don't people consider FI more often vs Ports, this is almost a free win at least at my level :smile:
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P i k i l i c wrote:Why don't people consider FI more often vs Ports, this is almost a free win at least at my level :smile:
you'll lose to port playing age 2 port playing age 3 and port playing age 4. Your only hope is that port trys age 5 play.
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Oke, lots of suggestions, I'll try them out. Rushing, consulate or otherwise in my experience doesn't work. cm tc fire and minute men to strong (and sometimes also units).
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gibson wrote:
P i k i l i c wrote:Why don't people consider FI more often vs Ports, this is almost a free win at least at my level :smile:
you'll lose to port playing age 2 port playing age 3 and port playing age 4. Your only hope is that port trys age 5 play.

:biggrin: haha I know in theory yes, but in reality that's not what I have experienced 8-)
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1. Send sepoy to enemy base. You can either send 6 brit consulate musks or in a map with good hunts send 4v and big trickle. If CM is sent or defence is solid, move to step 2.

2. Age up with atleast 4 vills on your wonder, preferably with Gate. Upgrade sepoys, buy mansadbar sepoy and ship +10% sepoy hp+attack. At this point you have +300hp sepoy that wins any porto unit (except cassadors but ONLY if microed). In close combat your sepoys rape cassas like I rape kickass.

3. Ship Urumis, spam more sepoy and add a few gurkhas if you don't want to be labeled as a sepoy lamer. At this point you can't lose a battle because your sepoys have stats of IV unit and they combine well with urumis.

4. If porto goes IV with MM+Fort/other shit, simply follow. Keep sending urumis and spamming IV sepoy.

Should be easy4india. You don't need any other unit but sepoy and urumi.
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Micro guide:

Vs xbow/musk: Z-move sepoy.
Vs goon: Aggro and z-move sepoy.
Vs huss: He is really fucking idiot to spam any
Vs cassador: Make sepoy flank or slow down with urumis and z-move.
Vs: 2 organs: Aggro with sepoys and right click organs.
V: +5 organs: This is a tricky situation. You may have to ship/do 2 siege elephants. Otherwise, keep z-moving sepoy.

Anti-Heavy cannon trick: Cease fire, move your sepoys+urumi next to the heavy cannons. And insta melee them down in 1 second.
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somppukunkku wrote:In close combat your sepoys rape cassas like I rape kickass.


This is extremly OP :hehe:
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Googol wrote:
somppukunkku wrote:In close combat your sepoys rape cassas like I rape kickass.


This is extremly OP :hehe:


No he means very slowly and in a lot of lag.
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why dont mass gurkha with brit consulate+10%hp/atk+mansabdar?
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pecelot wrote:
Asateo wrote:
tedere12 wrote:Ports need a lot of food


So contain them?
Yes, starve, sit on hunts etc. General anti-Ports 101 :smile:



It worked. :chinese:

No more portugese colonies in India! :hehe:
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