standard german semi-ff

Durokan · Post by **Durokan** » 30 Jun 2015, 16:26

What is the basic build order? Tips and tricks are also welcome.

Post by **edeholland** » 30 Jun 2015, 16:47

Tried looking into Goodspeeds guide? :p

3SW 700G

momuuu · Post by **momuuu** » 30 Jun 2015, 16:51

I remember it as 3 SW 700 coin. But that was before TP meta. Maybe 3 SW 700 wood is the way to go now.

[Armag] diarouga · Post by **[Armag] diarouga** » 30 Jun 2015, 16:54

3SW 700g TP while aging 2.
Be sure to gather 100 extra wood for a house, you need X/50 pop.

macacoalbino · Post by **macacoalbino** » 30 Jun 2015, 17:42

after 700g is it 700w? or 1k w? or just units? All I know is that if enemy pressure, you should go with xbow card

[Armag] diarouga · Post by **[Armag] diarouga** » 30 Jun 2015, 17:43

macacoalbino wrote:after 700g is it 700w? or 1k w? or just units? All I know is that if enemy pressure, you should go with xbow card

No wood shipments, just send shipments and mass uhlan from the stable.

macacoalbino · Post by **macacoalbino** » 30 Jun 2015, 17:46

gotta try that out

Durokan · Post by **Durokan** » 30 Jun 2015, 17:52

diarouga wrote:
macacoalbino wrote:after 700g is it 700w? or 1k w? or just units? All I know is that if enemy pressure, you should go with xbow card
No wood shipments, just send shipments and mass uhlan from the stable.

How many vills should be chopping wood in fortress/transition to fortress?

_venox_ · Post by **_venox_** » 30 Jun 2015, 17:59

As many as you need houses for and some more if you want to add a baracks.

[Armag] diarouga · Post by **[Armag] diarouga** » 30 Jun 2015, 17:59

I don't play german but I'd say 6-7. Ask Mitoe.

fei123456 · Post by **fei123456** » 02 Jul 2015, 16:47

Chop for a tp and 100 extra wood during transition
Steel trap can be delayed to age3. Or you will get popped.
German units costs less food so steel trap is not that important in early age 2.

Jaeger · Post by **Jaeger** » 04 Jul 2015, 00:06

durokan wrote:
diarouga wrote:No wood shipments, just send shipments and mass uhlan from the stable.

How many vills should be chopping wood in fortress/transition to fortress?

You need around 13 vills on wood, usually have like 4-5v on food, 4 SW on gold, everything else on wood

fei123456 · Post by **fei123456** » 04 Jul 2015, 00:12

dont chop. send 700w or even 1000w (if your opponent is not trying to hit you when you reach age 3). you can do a lot with them: a second tp, veteran uhlan, barrack, houses, and market upgrades.
but not 2nd tc. it takes too long time to pay back.

i forgot to say you HAVE to build tp asap. or you wont have shipment when you reach age 3.

lemmings121 · Post by **lemmings121** » 04 Jul 2015, 01:36

deleted_user wrote:If you see them add a rax in age II, you have to as well.

You HAVE to? If that''s true, shouldn''t it be standard that you build it first? if your opponent dont do it to, you won, if he does, life goes on.

[Armag] diarouga · Post by **[Armag] diarouga** » 04 Jul 2015, 05:15

deleted_user wrote:
lemmings121 wrote:You HAVE to? If thats true, shouldnt it be standard that you build it first? if your opponent dont do it to, you won, if he does, life goes on.
Well it depends I guess if you are comfortable with dopp uhlan and what time in the game it is and how close you are to aging. But a good example of this is H2O vs BSOP in ASC spring finals. H2O scouted his rax, and built his own.

Yeah if your opponent is going dopp you have to switch dopp. It isnt standard because the one who has more dopps will have less uhlans so less raids and his 5 extra dopps will get killed by MM

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