Counter India

[Garja]

Did you spend a nice new year's eve?

[Hazza54321]

fine thanks and you?

[deleted_user]

Great, and you?

[tedere12]

Just fine, how about you?

[momuuu]

Except he doesnt bring up any actual points except "facts" based on his own perceived authority. Which he really doesnt have much of imo as there are no recent good tournament results.

If assuming standard play, india cant easily hold an aztec push and aztec ends up killing theb agra and then aztec is massively ahead or just outright wins.

That only happens at like pr30 no clue players.
I have the authrotiy because if we play 100 games I'm gonna win 70+ of them.

Yet for me it was not impossible to beat kingofosmane in a tournament series while he rolled you up

[oxaloacetate]

Yea thats the problem with garjaments is that they're based almost solely off of his personal experience and literally nothing else. For a normal person this may be okay but for someone who thinks they're much better than they are as well as being super stubborn it doesn't. It ends with someone thinking that jap beats brit 80-20 just cause diarouga beat him jap vs brit.

I can beat you and 95% of current players n both sides of that MU so maybe if I say that India is better is becsuse it actually is.

Is your argument that you're correct because you're the better player? Then it doesn't make much sense when you've disagreed with better players than yourself in the past.

Not having a jab, just curious (and I really dislike arguments from authority).

[gh0st]

This thread is all about just garja being garja.

[KINGofOsmane]

so kingofosmane top 2 then? @KINGofOsmane the stats dont lie

By stats you mean the 340953409582310948209138 that he dodged my request to play a game? That's a bit more than you dodging.

not sure if top 3 or 3:0

[Rikikipu]

KingOfOsmane top 2 and tedere top 8, what a year !

[Garja]

so kingofosmane top 2 then? @KINGofOsmane the stats dont lie

By stats you mean the 340953409582310948209138 that he dodged my request to play a game? That's a bit more than you dodging.

not sure if top 3 or 3:0

viewtopic.php?f=411&t=13081#p275841
It says 3-0 ye

[gibson]

I think it's time to move on and maybe actually discuss India. Garja has thoroughly demonstrated once again that he's incapable of behaving in a rational way so it would probably be best to ignore him less the conversation gets derailed again. If anyone starts missing him I can interject with a "I'm right cause I'm garja and you're wrong cause you suck" and that should take care of it

[Garja]

Nice try.

[KINGofOsmane]

and then hes wondering why hes the top meme lol

[Garja]

Who's wondering what. I'm top, period.

[yemshi]

Meme or player

[lordraphael]

love it

[deleted_user]

Meme or player

porque no los dos

[momuuu]

At this point Im wondering, has garja become self aware and is he mocking himself with his responses or whats going on? I'd pay quite much to have insight in garja's ways of thought.

[Sputnik]

In my opinion, India is much better in ep, just because of the 50 wood houses. Because that actually means all your builds(market upgrades, consulate rush with market maybe or semi ff builds with tp etc) is faster, which what india lacks in re patch especially in some matchups like vs fre/germ etc. Having better macro actually means a lot in ep patch which i like a lot. About sepoy nerf, in general even with 190 hp sepoys your aim is contain and do eco since india can outscale(almost)any civ in long run. That means you should never take a risky military exchange which is what happens if you actually go under any tc. I do believe that they actually do pretty good against spain/port/aztec/japan/china/iro/russia/brit and otto and the classic counters such as fre/germ matchups are easier then before. So they have really good mu's in general which makes them closer to tier 1. And i didn't even mention the sowar cost reduction which actually helps against 2 falc timings.

[macacoalbino]

Personal insults ESOC is back! That's the best ESOC there has ever been! Someone mind bringing rouga back for extra fun?

[momuuu]

Credit where credit is due, diarouga's assesment and treatment of garja is one Im starting to understand more and more.

[Kaiserklein]

@Garja could you write a list ranking the top 10 players please?

[dicktator_]

@Garja could you write a list ranking the top 10 players please?

One for current and one for all time plz

[WickedCossack]

Now that would be interesting

[Kaiserklein]

I hope every player undeservedly ranked below Garja in that list will challenge him to play a grudge match in a dedicated thread