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zoom wrote:
slay3r19 wrote:For people saying you cant let british boom fully, after china hits age 4 they have about 28 vills (plus 10 vills=tower on wood) so 38 vills, at the same time brit has 40 vills, so really not a big deal. At the time of chinas push, brit has 48 vills, china has 35 vills and 10 = tower. So still no big deal, and during that push china has age 3 units and brit has age 2 units, if brit decides to age they will have 2-4 less vills and they have to upgrade their units. Eco wise it seems about even or SLIGHTLY brit favored, but china makes up for it with all their free units. To me this matchup seems pretty even, but also you gotta remeber brit is running out of safe hunts. At the time of the china push, china is still gathering in base and brit is halfway across map hunting.
Bias confirmed.

Tower is 8 (unupgraded' its less once you get market upgrades) vills on wood, the economy discrepancy is gigantic (not two vills), the only "free" units Chinese get are from the Summer Palace, and Longbowmen are ridiculously effective against the Chinese army composition in general.


longbow are not effective against mass melee units. hussar dragoon jaeger is better against china.
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In small numbers they aren't' in the numbers you'll have at 10min into the game they are extremely effective. The main reason why Longbowmen are so good against Chinese is that while they do worse against heavy infantry than Skirmisher type units, they do about three times as well against cavalry.
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whether brits semi ff or mass in colonial they get just outmassed by China on a map that has fair resources.
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I think brit wins with aggressive lbow pike. You can keep all their vills in the tc whilst booming at home.
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I think it depends on how many hunts (water) there is and definitely about how narrow the maps are' on closed maps longbows can be used aggressively too and won't die to the melee composition.
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china wins this easily
breeze wrote: they cant even guess how much f***ing piece of stupid retarded they look they are trying to give lesson to people who are over pr35 and know the best mu. im pretty sure that we need a page that only pr30+ post and then we could have a nice discussins.
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papist wrote:Sepoy rush him. He will most likely be going lbow/pike (if he goes musk/huss, just spam sepoy and rape him), so make sure to mix some sowars in with your sepoy mass. Go fortress, but don''t ff - you need to slow down his boom ASAP.

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I think the only way brit wins is if they can really damage China with a rush. Brit will just roll over and die if China makes fortress unharmed
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ovi12 wrote:
umeu wrote:Theres no way that china wins...
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ovi12 wrote:
umeu wrote:Theres no way that china wins...
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I personally dont really see how brits win it. The china mass is pretty insane.
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Brits win it, lb/pike/huss timing or musk/huss timing=>gg.
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Obviously Chinese win. They are the top civilization for a reason, after all...
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How to exactly do a lb pike huss timing? 3v 700w 600w 700c?
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venox wrote:How to exactly do a lb pike huss timing? 3v 700w 600w 700c?
exactly ') This timing is strong enough to kill France, vs ger you''ll need more units but nvm since they don''t have the shipment.
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diarouga wrote:
venox wrote:How to exactly do a lb pike huss timing? 3v 700w 600w 700c?
exactly ') This timing is strong enough to kill France, vs ger youll need more units but nvm since they dont have the shipment.

what time does this come in?
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gibson wrote:
diarouga wrote:exactly ') This timing is strong enough to kill France, vs ger youll need more units but nvm since they dont have the shipment.
what time does this come in?
It depends on the MU, vs china it is probably at 8min.
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diarouga wrote:
gibson wrote:what time does this come in?
It depends on the MU, vs china it is probably at 8min.

eh I thinks thats too late to beat China.
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gibson wrote:
diarouga wrote:It depends on the MU, vs china it is probably at 8min.
eh I thinks thats too late to beat China.

Youll have 3 times more units, 8min means he doesnt have any units btw .
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diarouga wrote:
gibson wrote:eh I thinks thats too late to beat China.
Youll have 3 times more units, 8min means he doesnt have any units btw .

but it does mean that hes in fortress with at least one shipment otw, at least one military structure training units, a few units from age 2 wonder, minutemen, tc fire and the continual threat of another shipment popping
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You did just convince me diarougha. I think its pretty close though.
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gibson wrote:
diarouga wrote:Youll have 3 times more units, 8min means he doesnt have any units btw .
but it does mean that hes in fortress with at least one shipment otw, at least one military structure training units, a few units from age 2 wonder, minutemen, tc fire and the continual threat of another shipment popping
Lets say he has 10 skirms, 4cav, disciples, mms, 3 pikes and 3 bows at 8min30, youll rape it with a bit of micro. If youre not confident in your micro go musk/huss.

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