Russia vs Aztec?

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I don't play either civ, but whenever I've played as Russia vs aztec I've won lol. I feel like all russia has to do is just survive until 10 minutes and then it's gg, and I think surviving until 10 minutes with BH in base and minutemen is very easy on a map like high plains. Their composition is better, their eco is better, and their units are most cost effective.
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aztec can boom 10wp too.
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Aztec can out mass Russia, and Russia's weak musk make them especially vulnerable to mace and coyotes.
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Cosak OWN coyotes/maces so hard, its not even close after boyars/cav-card. And you can pretty much always safely send them when u play defensively. And strel/cos is easily better than mace/coy/puma. And its easier to micro since u only have 2 units.
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cossacks are very good against light infantry because of high range-resistance 30% which is more than Hus 20% have but they are not so good in melee vs other cav in my opinion, so its difficult to counter enemy cav with your own cossacks. but the problem for aztec is.. theire coyote are even worse than cossacks in melee and have only 10% range resistance so they die fast to strel/musk mix.
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cossack strelet is the way to go, strelet beat puma and mace cost effectively, and coss annihalate mace and coyote cost effectively (especially after boyars) this is one of the match ups russia actually wins.
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hazza54321 wrote:cossack strelet is the way to go, strelet beat puma and mace cost effectively, and coss annihalate mace and coyote cost effectively (especially after boyars) this is one of the match ups russia actually wins.
What about having like 10 musks to block puma coyote?
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but my cossack usually lose to coyote.
coyote are cheaper, and don't have pathing problem. they get buff from firepit. and sometimes they even have 210hp in age 2.
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ovi12 wrote:
hazza54321 wrote:cossack strelet is the way to go, strelet beat puma and mace cost effectively, and coss annihalate mace and coyote cost effectively (especially after boyars) this is one of the match ups russia actually wins.
What about having like 10 musks to block puma coyote?
10 musk is fine but mace kill them so quickly
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paul wrote:but my cossack usually lose to coyote.
coyote are cheaper, and don''t have pathing problem. they get buff from firepit. and sometimes they even have 210hp in age 2.
coyote are 40 res cheaper, i''d rather have coss for 150 than coyote for 110, and how dooes a coyote get 210hp in age 2
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blockhouse base, start 700w, add stable and some other useful stuff, spam cossacks and some inf depending what ur opponent is doing, drink beer, attack move ur shit and hope you win, hide spies if playing vs garja
gl hf, stop playing russia and drink more beer.
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hazza54321 wrote:
paul wrote:but my cossack usually lose to coyote.
coyote are cheaper, and dont have pathing problem. they get buff from firepit. and sometimes they even have 210hp in age 2.
coyote are 40 res cheaper, id rather have coss for 150 than coyote for 110, and how dooes a coyote get 210hp in age 2

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somppukunkku wrote:blockhouse base, start 700w, add stable and some other useful stuff, spam cossacks and some inf depending what ur opponent is doing, drink beer, attack move ur shit and hope you win, hide spies if playing vs garja
gl hf, stop playing russia and drink more beer.
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Nice BO, 700w, beer(for strelet micro), 5 coss. Dont u think russia wins on high food maps tho?
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cossack beat coyote theoratically, but coyote has a slim body and has less pathing problem. and aztec may boom 10wp. with 21% attack they are insane.
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I feel like Russians may do well if they can hit a timing before 10WP and Coyote Combat. At least their economy and unit composition are superior.
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Azzy win it with a timing. I would go 5coss/700w/700g like in every MU and musk/coss coz the azzy won t pike but coyottes.
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diarouga wrote:Azzy win it with a timing. I would go 5coss/700w/700g like in every MU and musk/coss coz the azzy won t pike but coyottes.


I don''t think so cause azzy very likely makes or ships maces to his army. And rus musks get rekt by coyote anyway.

Better do like pure cossack, force azzy to do pikes and then add strelet.
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diarouga wrote:Azzy win it with a timing. I would go 5coss/700w/700g like in every MU and musk/coss coz the azzy won t pike but coyottes.
What timing? I think Aztecs do well once they have 10WP and CC. I don''t think they do very well before that.
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somppukunkku wrote:
diarouga wrote:Azzy win it with a timing. I would go 5coss/700w/700g like in every MU and musk/coss coz the azzy won t pike but coyottes.
I dont think so cause azzy very likely makes or ships maces to his army. And rus musks get rekt by coyote anyway.

Better do like pure cossack, force azzy to do pikes and then add strelet.

Hum, maybe, I don t remember how well musk do vs coyottes.
If you go strel/coss then 700w 1st ofc.
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Aztecs should win this but Russia does better than most civs.
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garja wrote:Aztecs should win this but Russia does better than most civs.
How does aztec win?
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ovi12 wrote:
garja wrote:Aztecs should win this but Russia does better than most civs.
How does aztec win?
Russia is just generally worse civ. Azzy masses harder and with attack dance units are better.
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azzy>> russia, better units and i think better mass, i thin azzy doesn't have to waste units in the first 10 minutes, then more game keep long more is easy for azzy
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somppukunkku wrote:
ovi12 wrote:How does aztec win?
Russia is just generally worse civ. Azzy masses harder and with attack dance units are better.
With a worse economy and less cost efficient units, how exactly do Aztecs "mass harder"?

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