India failephant rush

How is this strat (for target pr 20 under)

1. Good
17
37%
2. Okayish, could use refinement
7
15%
3. No (specify)
3
7%
4. Donut
11
24%
5. Srsly, only cops like donuta
8
17%
 
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India failephant rush

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Target: PR 20 and under ONLY.

Has succeeded on pr 20 players

Fails on anyone above (tested vs diarouga and ovi12 and some others)

10/10 build order, but age with taj mahal. First card good faith agreements. Second card 300 export Build castle in transition and consulate. Ally with french and ship 500 wood (houses) and 500 gold. With castle queue up 5 flail elephanra and build a barracks. Siege houses/villages and hit/run with sepoy from barracks.
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I like to try to use flail elephent!
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I used to not be fond of the flail elephant but its really a nice cheap siege unit. In late game its better to take out FB and buildings than walls as the siege ele, is expensive and does its damage at a slower rate (though they are essential to have to snipe cannon and take out walls). Careful though because they still have the bad mahout pathing and can cause trouble if too many are set to a crowded wall.
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Huh? Bump? from where?
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I once saw boneng doing this vs Arc Briator on bayou. Boneng got rekt.
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_DB_ wrote:I once saw boneng doing this vs Arc Briator on bayou. Boneng got rekt.


I have mentioned that this strat is only confirmed to work under PR 20/ELO 1900, so that doesnt count.
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Looks great to me i think I will try it but I don't think the elites will approve. Won't be long till they show up and tell us all how bad we are.
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This strategy needs revival, it has been showcased on fight night after all!
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You can beat pr 40 japans with flail ele rushes. Not sure it works vs other civs.
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WickedCossack wrote:You can beat pr 40 japans with flail ele rushes. Not sure it works vs other civs.

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viewtopic.php?f=17&t=139&p=727#p727 game 2 is the best flail bo i think
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I'd disagree it works only pr20 and down, I've defeated many players above that level with thish strat.
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pretty much no one above ur rank I see one game vs a player of higher rank u won as india in recent months
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yesh but many above pr20
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noissance wrote:This strategy needs revival, it has been showcased on fight night after all!


Can anyone please post a link to the stream or video..
Or of game 2 of buster from ro64 spring 2015

I think both french cons grenadiers and flails do well against japan. Though flail rush only works as a surprise..
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French consulate is more for eco buff than grens, cuz u can spend export on more crates.
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drsingh wrote:
noissance wrote:This strategy needs revival, it has been showcased on fight night after all!


Can anyone please post a link to the stream or video..
Or of game 2 of buster from ro64 spring 2015

I think both french cons grenadiers and flails do well against japan. Though flail rush only works as a surprise..

This reminds me, I need to be doing more grenadier strats with india, I've forgotten about them.
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how can a "fail elephant" rush not fail?
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One of the faults of the sepoy rush in some matchups is that it doesnt have enough siege, like vs. spain, otto, and dutch. I wonder if this would be an improvement in those matchups. I am mostly talking about the karni mata with wood trickle first variation which I believe to be superior to the gfa/taj bo.
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fei123456 wrote:how can a "fail elephant" rush not fail?

If the opponent fails at defending against this, then they fell victim to the Failephant rush
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noissance wrote:
fei123456 wrote:how can a "fail elephant" rush not fail?

If the opponent fails at defending against this, then they fell victim to the Failephant rush

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NyxAchlys9 wrote:
noissance wrote:
fei123456 wrote:how can a "fail elephant" rush not fail?

If the opponent fails at defending against this, then they fell victim to the Failephant rush

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A "Consulate rush", 300e-5sepoy, but ally with french and train grenadiers from consulate, sounds better.
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fei123456 wrote:A "Consulate rush", 300e-5sepoy, but ally with french and train grenadiers from consulate, sounds better.

Flail elephants are stronger than grenadiers though...
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