counter russia's early pressure

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Looks more like pointless bickering to me. If you think a units has its merits, use it. Why does it matter whether everyone else agrees with you.
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mostly because potential balance adjusted may be made on the basis of who is right
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iNcog wrote:mostly because potential balance adjusted may be made on the basis of who is right

Yeah, but its not like that affects vanilla.
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manwithoutname wrote:Looks more like pointless bickering to me. If you think a units has its merits, use it. Why does it matter whether everyone else agrees with you.

Because we like talking about the game and this is a forum where you can talk about the game.

I find mankl's argument pretty shitty though. I mean, what is he suggesting? Make musketeers instead? There could be other reasons you lose in fortress as russia (for example the lack of really good shipments or the fact that you have to upgrade quite a few units) or maybe that CA strelet is indeed worse than skirm goon. That doesn't mean you shouldn't use cav archers or that they are really shitty.
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manwithoutname wrote:Looks more like pointless bickering to me. If you think a units has its merits, use it. Why does it matter whether everyone else agrees with you.


This is the place where people can come to debate the merits of certain units. If you don't want to participate in those debates, don't feel obligated to, but don't criticize the people who do want to.
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jerom dropping the s word D:
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Jerom wrote:I find mankl's argument pretty shitty though. I mean, what is he suggesting? Make musketeers instead? There could be other reasons you lose in fortress as russia (for example the lack of really good shipments or the fact that you have to upgrade quite a few units) or maybe that CA strelet is indeed worse than skirm goon. That doesn't mean you shouldn't use cav archers or that they are really shitty.

Well yeah, saying that something sucks because nobody does it isn't really relevant imo. That's how you make the meta evolve, by trying stuff people usually don't do. For example, Mitoe's german mirror build relies on not sending 3 sw, or at least not early on. How shitty does that look ? No one used to do that, because 3 sw is the best vil shipment in the game, and in the greedy meta you want to ship vils usually. Yet we saw that the strat wasn't bad at all in some cases...

manwithoutname wrote:Looks more like pointless bickering to me. If you think a units has its merits, use it. Why does it matter whether everyone else agrees with you.

Well the point of aoe forums is to discuss aoe... And for balance purposes it's important to state how good units are. Here for example, russia is known to have a shitty (semi-)ff, so if we find that CA are bad, buffing them could be a way to buff russia's fortress a bit, etc. Then idk, I just like arguing about stuff. Maybe you think it's pointless but I like it so I don't think it's pointless
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gibson wrote:You never want to go abus cav archer lol.......

have you watched this? [FP 1.2 rec]

http://www.rts-sanctuary.com/The-Asian-Dynasties/showtopic=197295&#entry2154392

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ask for Details Harry, or make cav
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Kaiserklein wrote:
Jerom wrote:I find mankl's argument pretty shitty though. I mean, what is he suggesting? Make musketeers instead? There could be other reasons you lose in fortress as russia (for example the lack of really good shipments or the fact that you have to upgrade quite a few units) or maybe that CA strelet is indeed worse than skirm goon. That doesn't mean you shouldn't use cav archers or that they are really shitty.

Well yeah, saying that something sucks because nobody does it isn't really relevant imo. That's how you make the meta evolve, by trying stuff people usually don't do. For example, Mitoe's german mirror build relies on not sending 3 sw, or at least not early on. How shitty does that look ? No one used to do that, because 3 sw is the best vil shipment in the game, and in the greedy meta you want to ship vils usually. Yet we saw that the strat wasn't bad at all in some cases...

manwithoutname wrote:Looks more like pointless bickering to me. If you think a units has its merits, use it. Why does it matter whether everyone else agrees with you.

Well the point of aoe forums is to discuss aoe... And for balance purposes it's important to state how good units are. Here for example, russia is known to have a shitty (semi-)ff, so if we find that CA are bad, buffing them could be a way to buff russia's fortress a bit, etc. Then idk, I just like arguing about stuff. Maybe you think it's pointless but I like it so I don't think it's pointless

i dont think buffing age 3 is rly a good idea since most russ stay age 2 anyway and try to kill you while you try to age.
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