When to make Yumi or Ashi

[jaype22]

I saw H2O and BSOP both only make ashi (+flamethrowers) in their mirrors but H2O going almost pure yumi vs snowww's france, so I asked myself if there's kind of a rule when to make which

[_H2O]

I like yumi a lot outside the mirror. The reason I like ashi I the mirror is because of killing shrines and running around the map. Also the games tend to tech up fast and ashi are stronger later. Yumi are just insane vs every other civ where the longer the game goes the better off you generally are

[Mimsy for President]

The truth has been spoken. Vs french you are outmassed in the beginning at least. Ashi are not so great without their upgrade &' the daimyo whereas yumi are just scary.

[jaype22]

Well I played like 3 games vs acergame09 and was fine with an ashi start vs his musk/huss. I agree yumi are for sure better vs xbow/pike but what do you do with your yumi if you have 5 musk and 5 huss in your base that early?
I could hold it off with mm+ashi, don't think i would have with yumi tbh

[_H2O]

Yumi do very well vs cav. You have 4 like minutes and 4 other minutes plus vils. That slows down everything long enough to make yumi useful