How to FI as Aztec

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How to FI as Aztec

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#diarouga4boneng

Great write up btw, thanks for spending time on it and sharing it.
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I think you left this part out:
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I wonder if musk huss can stop this bs.
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nice, will try some in qs sounds like a fun strat
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Oh it's funnu alright!
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Can someone put this on the wall?
best german stratgey

1. age with 3 settler wagon
2. make pike
3. push
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Done! Thanks for reminding me.
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I have just one question: what do you use the 1000w you ship for?
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Jerom wrote:I have just one question: what do you use the 1000w you ship for?


Make houses for 20 mace shipments, replace lost buildings, upgrade mace
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Mimsy for President wrote:I wonder if musk huss can stop this bs.

If you try to push hard with musk huss they will probably just play colonial/fortress for a bit and beat you
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ovi12 wrote:
Mimsy for President wrote:I wonder if musk huss can stop this bs.

If you try to push hard with musk huss they will probably just play colonial/fortress for a bit and beat you
Are you saying fr or brit loses to azzy no matter what?
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Mimsy for President wrote:
ovi12 wrote:
Mimsy for President wrote:I wonder if musk huss can stop this bs.

If you try to push hard with musk huss they will probably just play colonial/fortress for a bit and beat you
Are you saying fr or brit loses to azzy no matter what?

I have no idea
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never see indiarouga write strategies before :)
also, seems that there're different aging politican choices. warchief-skull-fast or skull-warchief-fast are also available imo.
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Couprider wrote:never see indiarouga write strategies before :)
also, seems that there're different aging politican choices. warchief-skull-fast or skull-warchief-fast are also available imo.

Hum?
You gotta age with the fast age to colonial no matter what.
Then it depends, if your opponent is going to attach you with falcs or skirm/goon, you should age to fortress with the Chief politician. And if he makes a lot of cav, aging to fortress with 3 SK is better.
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Jerom wrote:I have just one question: what do you use the 1000w you ship for?

You're usually /50, and you reach the 4 th age with 2 shipments, so you already need 500w for houses, then 200+400w for the maced upgrades, and you gotta gather more wood for more houses and to train maces.
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also i don't think smoking mirror is a must. this shipment is far away from 1000 resources as it's an age 3 shipment. i'd send 4 skull/6 arrow to defend, or just leave it to age 4. (and that's why i prefer going to age 4 with messenger: you can skip age 3 shipments.)
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The Area and the Speed you get is far better than 1k res lol.
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Couprider wrote:also i don't think smoking mirror is a must. this shipment is far away from 1000 resources as it's an age 3 shipment. i'd send 4 skull/6 arrow to defend, or just leave it to age 4. (and that's why i prefer going to age 4 with messenger: you can skip age 3 shipments.)
If you are aging to Industrial as soon as possible, I'd think Smoking Mirror is better than 1000w.

Probably expending The Messenger towards Colonial Age is best, but I could see Fortress Age also making sense, since it saves 70 train-points instead of 60.
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ovi12 wrote:
Jerom wrote:I have just one question: what do you use the 1000w you ship for?


Make houses for 20 mace shipments, replace lost buildings, upgrade mace
Just leave it on the ground for maximum induction of tilt. You don't need it, but your opponent could sure have used it.

I'd be sure to have "24 Macehualtins" in the deck as well, by the way...
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I dont trust nongarja aztec guides.
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Lukas tried some sort of shit like this against me the other day, but against India I just don't think it's possible. I made extremely uncost efficient trades all game and still won easily.
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Goodspeed: "When I said that the meta would start going towards FIs, you all laughed at me."
Goodspeed: "You're not laughing now, are you?"
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The only time someone did this explorer shit against me he got rekt too, yet diarouga and boneng make it seem OP. As India, do you just FI? Bet urumi rape this haha.
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iNcog wrote:Goodspeed: "When I said that the meta would start going towards FIs, you all laughed at me."
Goodspeed: "You're not laughing now, are you?"

Actually all FIs that have popped up have mostly been pretty abusive lol. This is based on the explorer cover mode bug almost entirely, together with the almost free revival of said explorer. Japan FI is based on getting 3 free shipments due to wonder bug.

The only FIs that are even remotely viable is China's FI and to a lesser extend India's FI. Spain/Otto FR work too sometimes. But none of these can become meta.

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