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P i k i l i c wrote:Hi all,

I know China is not the best civ to play 2v2 but what is the right way to play them ? I would like to know if some of you have neat BOs, I guess you cannot FF as in 1v1 so I thought you could train old han and ask your mate to train cav, ship 700 :wood: , is it a good idea ? What wonder is the best for I :arrow: II and II :arrow: III ? Do you have an advice on the use of disciples ?

Thanks in advance ! :smile:

china is tier2 in team. The real problem is you need to be good whit micro. Then is another civs like jap or german that make noobs good players. You can ff or play xbow/pikke as @Darwin wrote here. Anyway in 2-2 (as 3-3) the problem aren't the singular civ. But what civs is using your mate and what civ you have vs. Map also is important. In the noob gamestyle if team now, using porto jap china is easy (tr 10-15). So you can boom so easy :chinese: . Few players will rush you and be really able to make a consistent fast rush. Just think what match up is, map and scout. Scouting fb is fucking important
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China does better than Japanese on 2v2 imo
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DaRkNiTe1698 wrote:China does better than Japanese on 2v2 imo

Yeah probably dependibg on the civs though, if ur vs like ports/dutch japs are probably better
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Ok so in nutshell starting Ckn pike, with TP(s) if the map allows it, 700 :wood: as 2nd shipment, build villages on hunts and fb if I have one, and age up as soon as I can afford it and send New Army in Age III if I have a large number of Old Han
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Japan is easily better than china in 2v2. No contest. Shrine everywhere on the map and deny your enemies hunts, while you boom as well as Britain, and spam insane Ashi and 20 atk yumi in age 2.
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Darwin_ wrote:Japan is easily better than china in 2v2. No contest. Shrine everywhere on the map and deny your enemies hunts, while you boom as well as Britain, and spam insane Ashi and 20 atk yumi in age 2.
Ok if you say so, then I have to change my mind.
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DaRkNiTe1698 wrote:
Darwin_ wrote:Japan is easily better than china in 2v2. No contest. Shrine everywhere on the map and deny your enemies hunts, while you boom as well as Britain, and spam insane Ashi and 20 atk yumi in age 2.
Ok if you say so, then I have to change my mind.

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Darwin_ wrote:Japan is easily better than china in 2v2. No contest. Shrine everywhere on the map and deny your enemies hunts, while you boom as well as Britain, and spam insane Ashi and 20 atk yumi in age 2.

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I think it just depends on the match ups and maps, japan can be really super good sometimes but in some match up you can pressure them easily
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Darwin_ wrote:Japan is easily better than china in 2v2. No contest. Shrine everywhere on the map and deny your enemies hunts, while you boom as well as Britain, and spam insane Ashi and 20 atk yumi in age 2.


i'm trying to teach this truth since i came back to AGE. Jap well used if the best team civ. I'm losting my hope dude.
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DaRkNiTe1698 wrote:
Darwin_ wrote:Japan is easily better than china in 2v2. No contest. Shrine everywhere on the map and deny your enemies hunts, while you boom as well as Britain, and spam insane Ashi and 20 atk yumi in age 2.
Ok if you say so, then I have to change my mind.

yes you have becouse is totally wrong ( not a flame). Jap is for sure the best team civ, expecially in this low team's kills meta, where team are = TR10-15 and nobody is still able to make a consistent rush. Tier 2 cina/sioux. :chinese: :chinese: :chinese: :chinese: :chinese:
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Kaiserklein wrote:I think it just depends on the match ups and maps, japan can be really super good sometimes but in some match up you can pressure them easily

right my love. But can well used is op in all match up, live my love for you :love:
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r4go wrote:
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Darwin_ wrote:Japan is easily better than china in 2v2. No contest. Shrine everywhere on the map and deny your enemies hunts, while you boom as well as Britain, and spam insane Ashi and 20 atk yumi in age 2.
Ok if you say so, then I have to change my mind.

yes you have becouse is totally wrong ( not a flame). Jap is for sure the best team civ, expecially in this low team's kills meta, where team are = TR10-15 and nobody is still able to make a consistent rush. Tier 2 cina/sioux. :chinese: :chinese: :chinese: :chinese: :chinese:
I think the best civilisation is able to hold a rush and still be fine at every situation, Japanese instead, are not good to hold a rush and they become super good on late game only. It's useless saying all the time the same thing, Japanese are not the best civilization on team, unless if game is like treaty 10-15,actually.
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Like Russia, China can get out a bunch of cost-effective junk out very early. They also have some nice age 2 shipments (8 ckn, 9 pike, Mandarin Duck Squad, 7 cav, 300 export=6 redcoats). And of course, their age 3 is insane. Has anyone tried the Confucian Academy>>Porcelain Tower build?
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yes you have becouse is totally wrong ( not a flame). Jap is for sure the best team civ, expecially in this low team's kills meta, where team are = TR10-15 and nobody is still able to make a consistent rush. Tier 2 cina/sioux. :chinese: :chinese: :chinese: :chinese: :chinese:
I think the best civilisation is able to hold a rush and still be fine at every situation, Japanese instead, are not good to hold a rush and they become super good on late game only. It's useless saying all the time the same thing, Japanese are not the best civilization on team, unless if game is like treaty 10-15,actually.

Stay whit your ideas so :chinese: :chinese: :chinese: me and dawrin have our idea :P
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I think the best civilisation is able to hold a rush and still be fine at every situation, Japanese instead, are not good to hold a rush and they become super good on late game only. It's useless saying all the time the same thing, Japanese are not the best civilization on team, unless if game is like treaty 10-15,actually.

Stay whit your ideas so :chinese: :chinese: :chinese: me and dawrin have our idea :P
It's nice you have your own ideas, but don't flame your opponent because you lost and he was using japanese. I watched an hazza stream where you lost and said: "jap is a civ for noobs" that means hazza and lucailgrande are noobs because they were using that civ that moment or ? Not sure why you want to say japanese is a civ for noobs, they require nice defensive skills on early game , honestly. Otto is a civ for noobs, for example, free vills, OP units etc, not japanese. Especially on some maps, where japanese are a bad civ. Anyway think what you want, it's nice everybody his own ideas, this is not flaming by the way, I am just not agreeing with you here (which may depends also from the fact you aren't telling me why you think japanese is so OP). You think japs are OP 1v1, teams, just use them, man ! You will tell me if you will change your mind :)
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Stay whit your ideas so :chinese: :chinese: :chinese: me and dawrin have our idea :P
It's nice you have your own ideas, but don't flame your opponent because you lost and he was using japanese. I watched an hazza stream where you lost and said: "jap is a civ for noobs" that means hazza and lucailgrande are noobs because they were using that civ that moment or ? Not sure why you want to say japanese is a civ for noobs, they require nice defensive skills on early game , honestly. Otto is a civ for noobs, for example, free vills, OP units etc, not japanese. Especially on some maps, where japanese are a bad civ. Anyway think what you want, it's nice everybody his own ideas, this is not flaming by the way, I am just not agreeing with you here (which may depends also from the fact you aren't telling me why you think japanese is so OP). You think japs are OP 1v1, teams, just use them, man ! You will tell me if you will change your mind :)

I think hazza knows very well jap is a civs for noobs becouse it's too lame. As others had flamed kyenise to use it :grin: hazza is a friend i wasn't flaming him. You read it wrong :maniac: :uglylol: :uglylol: :uglylol:
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I'm surprised nobody has brought up the monk and disciples yet.
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Papist wrote:I'm surprised nobody has brought up the monk and disciples yet.

I mean they are good and means that china has good early presence, but they arent as good as villages, war academies, and good age 2 cards, as well as strong consulate options.

Now, what about team 2 mongol scouts?
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japan definitely better than china in 2v2...
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I dont know why people always insist that Japan can't hold a rush....... That's just bs. They can hold a rush just fine you just can't go 6w 4v 4v late double rax.
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DaRkNiTe1698 wrote:
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Stay whit your ideas so :chinese: :chinese: :chinese: me and dawrin have our idea :P
It's nice you have your own ideas, but don't flame your opponent because you lost and he was using japanese. I watched an hazza stream where you lost and said: "jap is a civ for noobs" that means hazza and lucailgrande are noobs because they were using that civ that moment or ? Not sure why you want to say japanese is a civ for noobs, they require nice defensive skills on early game , honestly. Otto is a civ for noobs, for example, free vills, OP units etc, not japanese. Especially on some maps, where japanese are a bad civ. Anyway think what you want, it's nice everybody his own ideas, this is not flaming by the way, I am just not agreeing with you here (which may depends also from the fact you aren't telling me why you think japanese is so OP). You think japs are OP 1v1, teams, just use them, man ! You will tell me if you will change your mind :)

well luca is as big of a nob as you can get :chinese:
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Luca just flame, when he loses mates noob, when he wins he is a pro. Yes his jap really sux. But he is funny on his way :biggrin: z@pecelot
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yeah haha @r4go he suspected me of being a colonel XD
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@r4go i told you when you want 1v1 with rec game!! I kill you so easy! you just have no skill you talk like a pro but your skill are really low. You just send few cav start then no eco all game you real level in 1v1 should be pr 20 21 no more, you also lose 1v1 game vs yamakouk ahaha so funny and that says everything!! 1v1 when you want if you have balls!!

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