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I asked ramex on stream and he said he thinks dutch wins the mu. 700w bank wagon 600w ff into fortress age shipments. According to him, 1000w is too slow since china can go age 4.
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I'm not saying I think Dutch win the MU' I'm saying Chinese are absolutely forced to make FA.
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Its weird, I always get crushed really badly in the mu. Guess Im really doing things wrong then.
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zoom wrote:Ah, yes indeed... Skirmisher??Pike does so very amazingly well against the Dutch Fortress Age Skirmishers.

Chinese literally has no choice but to go fairly heavy on Forbidden Army.
you can outmass dutch
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I think Dutch is a better civ then most people think they are. Skirms behind walls is just OP and ryter are very efficient for anticav
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gibson wrote:I think Dutch is a better civ then most people think they are. Skirms behind walls is just OP and ryter are very efficient for anticav

Im pretty sure they are what people rate them. Just above ports, comparable to russia and spain.

But an untouched dutch ff is extremely scary. So is the china ff though.
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jerom wrote:
gibson wrote:I think Dutch is a better civ then most people think they are. Skirms behind walls is just OP and ryter are very efficient for anticav
Im pretty sure they are what people rate them. Just above ports, comparable to russia and spain.

But an untouched dutch ff is extremely scary. So is the china ff though.

Well i mean how are you gonna touch a well designed Dutch base with a hunt on the tc and 10 skirm?
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gibson wrote:
jerom wrote:Im pretty sure they are what people rate them. Just above ports, comparable to russia and spain.

But an untouched dutch ff is extremely scary. So is the china ff though.
Well i mean how are you gonna touch a well designed Dutch base with a hunt on the tc and 10 skirm?

you age up. Idk, maybe we need some kynesie style dutch to get the civ to be more popular.
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garja wrote:
zoom wrote:Ah, yes indeed... Skirmisher??Pike does so very amazingly well against the Dutch Fortress Age Skirmishers.

Chinese literally has no choice but to go fairly heavy on Forbidden Army.
you can outmass dutch
Oh, absolutely. You cant win by making TA though' unless the Dutch player makes 50% Ruyters...
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jerom wrote:
gibson wrote: Well i mean how are you gonna touch a well designed Dutch base with a hunt on the tc and 10 skirm?
you age up. Idk, maybe we need some kynesie style dutch to get the civ to be more popular.

na we need the unnerfed Dutch of old back Xd
Lol id say that its an even matchup until Japan gets to fortress. If he gets to industrial and ships arrows its gg
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gibson wrote:I think Dutch is a better civ then most people think they are. Skirms behind walls is just OP and ryter are very efficient for anticav
Yeah but dutch players don''t wall lol, otherwise the civ would be much better.
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diarouga wrote:
gibson wrote:I think Dutch is a better civ then most people think they are. Skirms behind walls is just OP and ryter are very efficient for anticav
Yeah but dutch players dont wall lol, otherwise the civ would be much better.

Idk why not though. You can literally spend like a hundred wood and be untouchable until the other player goes age 3
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Obviously you want swiss pike cannons with some ruyter

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