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So after the ASC tournament, the 12 sepoy slow agra is new meta for india vs brit. However, what do you do if they start lb pike? If you put 1 vill on the agra, they can have 5 lb 5 pike out by the time you reach their base with 12 sepoy, and if that happens you can't do anything with the sepoy, since if you follow the lb too far they will pop minutemen. The only option I see is putting like 3-4 vills on the agra and skiping transiton market/getting only 1 upgrade.
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Longbow wins India. Then you should camel + sepoy + gurk. Tbh, I'd rather go to age 3 faster because camels suck. Focus on age 3 much if you see longbow, as elephants are your ally. Raid with camels often even though they're not as efficient as hussar. If he's doing longbow, obviously he won't be aging to age 3 for a long time. It can be an advantage for you otherwise you'll have hard time beating Brits in age 2. Age 3 is the way to go.

If you see some sort of musk builds, then-

I had India vs Brit MU many times. I always went karni rather than agra. Tbh, karni works if you don't wanna be lame. It's efficient if he's manor booming or any type of British build.

Rec: http://www.mediafire.com/download/lu77y ... _DB_(India)_vs_Kazama_OP(British)_GP.age3Yrec

I also tried an early port consulate build, this is an old rec but my opponent wasn't so good Brit. You can watch it out for a nice port consulate build-

http://www.mediafire.com/download/dd884 ... _DB_(India)_vs_[LDJ]Cadu(British)_on_GP.age3Yrec
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12 sepoy + 2 eles wins 5 lbow + 5 pike, just run when he pops mm
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Problem with early game timings is mostly MM, if you can trigger those without taking too much damage you've won the trade, imo.
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ovi12 wrote:So after the ASC tournament, the 12 sepoy slow agra is new meta for india vs brit.


I''ts not really.
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garja wrote:
ovi12 wrote:So after the ASC tournament, the 12 sepoy slow agra is new meta for india vs brit.
Its not really.



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No, simply sepoy rush is not considered the best way to play vs brits.
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bart331 wrote:12 sepoy + 2 eles wins 5 lbow + 5 pike, just run when he pops mm
How? He keeps hit and running you and goes behind TC with longbow, and if you follow him behind TC he pops mm and reks you. It''s especially worse if he looses his explorer on purpose and then buys it back and melee when mm pop at TC.
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garja wrote:No, simply sepoy rush is not considered the best way to play vs brits.
What''s the best way then?
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Classic boomy style used to work just fine. With 12 sepoy you waste a card. Maybe 7 sepoy and 4 sowar works.
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garja wrote:Classic boomy style used to work just fine. With 12 sepoy you waste a card. Maybe 7 sepoy and 4 sowar works.

If you boom the brit will age 3. Imo 12 sepoy works quite well, you just want to keep him in colonial.
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Age for what. India can age too?
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garja wrote:Age for what. India can age too?
Vet lbs/goons?
How do you kill lbs? Not with sowars.
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it's not like the moment brits click on age up they have vet lbows and goons, let alone many of them. It's just one of those many MUs in which whoever ages up gets punished.
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Last time I played this MU vs bs, he aged and I couldn't punish him.
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Yeah I don't think you can really push into brit when they age if they have a lot lf lb
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And if they wall...
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diarouga wrote:
garja wrote:Age for what. India can age too?
Vet lbs/goons?
How do you kill lbs? Not with sowars.

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Sowars suck against everything that is in age3 or even age 2. Even few longbows can kite out camels.
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Definitely think 12 sep is best AND, forcing Brit to make 5 like and lb/ even shipping units, that is what you want. You want to force them to use their food on military early
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diarouga wrote:
garja wrote:Age for what. India can age too?
Vet lbs/goons?
How do you kill lbs? Not with sowars.



Mahout sepoy will rape that shit. Its india that cant really age unpunished in the mu which sucks cuz a semi ff would be nice. Brits with walls lb can hold sepoy rush quite ez imo. Just dont lose vills and ur fine.

I dunno about the boomy style tho, kinda depends map. If its like cascades or a low hunt map a sepoy rush is fine. Ship trickle after 5 sepoy and tp early or in trans and just rape some vills. Eco will be easily good enough to keep s cointain.

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