Boxer rebellion vs Village Defenses vs Military shipment

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As a Chinese player playing vs aggressive civ (Russian, India, otto) which card is the best while you're trying to age and not die.
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8 cho ko no(or steppe/pike) your free army from wonder, and mm should be more then enough for you to age without dying. Use villagers to help defend also & make sure your optimizing your tc fire.
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I played a game today vs a russian 2nd lt. He rushed ofc. I sent boxer rebellion (+50% tc attack) and just sat in my tc as i 1-shotted all his inf. I won super easy, I think i might start sending boxer rebellion every time vs rush.

EDIT: I'll post the rec here soon. I made a noob mistake at first by placing my wonder outside tc range, so i had to delete it when he started sieging at like 10% but even then i just rebuilt in front of my base, and then just slowly killed all of his army while he slowly sieged my wonder, i finally aged, and then cleaned up his remaining inf super easy with arq/ckn.
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On a slightly different note, how feasible would a boxer rush be? If you spam out 6 or so villages and ship Boxers you can get a decently large army for super cheap.
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I go tp => 2 vill, boxer rebellion, 700g, 700w vs russia
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__Uhlan__ wrote:8 cho ko no

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CurassierAndCurassier wrote:On a slightly different note, how feasible would a boxer rush be? If you spam out 6 or so villages and ship Boxers you can get a decently large army for super cheap.

Don't you have to ship 2 cards for that? One to make them from villages and one to prevent them from losing hp any longer? Not to mention you can only call 2 sentries and 2 irregulars per village, IRRC, and you're spending 1200w total on villages early into the game.

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b-b-but mm op :O
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CurassierAndCurassier wrote:On a slightly different note, how feasible would a boxer rush be? If you spam out 6 or so villages and ship Boxers you can get a decently large army for super cheap.
Yes in order to do this you have to send both village defenses, boxer rebellion and then make 6 villages and even then you can only get like 28 sentries and irregulars each, so it's not really a rush considering you'd probably have to go 3 vills, boxer rebellion, village defenses, 700w.

britishmusketeer wrote:I go tp => 2 vill, boxer rebellion, 700g, 700w vs russia

Yeah, this is the exact build I used. I didn't actually record the game unfortunately (we had to rehost and I forgot to record the second time) but it turned out pretty great. How viable do you think it is vs azzy/india/otto?
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britishmusketeer wrote:I go tp => 2 vill, boxer rebellion, 700g, 700w vs russia

Yeah, this is the exact build I used. I didn't actually record the game unfortunately (we had to rehost and I forgot to record the second time) but it turned out pretty great. How viable do you think it is vs azzy/india/otto?
I don't think it would be viable vs those civs. Vs india and otto you can go 700g 8 bow 700w with the tp and hold just fine(vs india shoot each sepoy twice with the tc so that when your 8 bows arrive you can clean up with them being on 10hp each. Vs azzy cm doesn't change the shots needed to kill a coyote. The only reason that I send it against russia is that they will otherwise just spam strelets under your tc which are barely not 1 shot without cm.
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britishmusketeer wrote:I go tp => 2 vill, boxer rebellion, 700g, 700w vs russia

Yeah, this is the exact build I used. I didn't actually record the game unfortunately (we had to rehost and I forgot to record the second time) but it turned out pretty great. How viable do you think it is vs azzy/india/otto?
I don't think it would be viable vs those civs. Vs india and otto you can go 700g 8 bow 700w with the tp and hold just fine(vs india shoot each sepoy twice with the tc so that when your 8 bows arrive you can clean up with them being on 10hp each. Vs azzy cm doesn't change the shots needed to kill a coyote. The only reason that I send it against russia is that they will otherwise just spam strelets under your tc which are barely not 1 shot without cm.

Yeah just realized that vs musketeers and strelets boxer rebellion can one shot (so essentially 2x damage) but against slightly tankier sepoy/jani it doesn't make as much of a difference. My one other question is how to protect 8 age up skirms without shipping pikes. Is there a good way?
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I don't think it would be viable vs those civs. Vs india and otto you can go 700g 8 bow 700w with the tp and hold just fine(vs india shoot each sepoy twice with the tc so that when your 8 bows arrive you can clean up with them being on 10hp each. Vs azzy cm doesn't change the shots needed to kill a coyote. The only reason that I send it against russia is that they will otherwise just spam strelets under your tc which are barely not 1 shot without cm.

Yeah just realized that vs musketeers and strelets boxer rebellion can one shot (so essentially 2x damage) but against slightly tankier sepoy/jani it doesn't make as much of a difference. My one other question is how to protect 8 age up skirms without shipping pikes. Is there a good way?

3 pikes from the summer palace + 5 disciples + monk + mm. Also you can change your shipment point to a village if the huss are under the tc. With your 700w you should build your buildings in a way that it is hard for cav to path though your town. Also you can age up with the tower instead of the skirms in most situations.
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K thanks I'll try it all out. If I ever need more help I try to get a rec.
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Mitoe wrote:
CurassierAndCurassier wrote:On a slightly different note, how feasible would a boxer rush be? If you spam out 6 or so villages and ship Boxers you can get a decently large army for super cheap.

Don't you have to ship 2 cards for that? One to make them from villages and one to prevent them from losing hp any longer? Not to mention you can only call 2 sentries and 2 irregulars per village, IRRC, and you're spending 1200w total on villages early into the game.

Viable confirmed.


I totally forgot that Boxers doesn't allow your villages to make sentries.

Pro tip guys ignore everything I say about a non vanilla civ
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CurassierAndCurassier wrote:
Mitoe wrote:
CurassierAndCurassier wrote:On a slightly different note, how feasible would a boxer rush be? If you spam out 6 or so villages and ship Boxers you can get a decently large army for super cheap.

Don't you have to ship 2 cards for that? One to make them from villages and one to prevent them from losing hp any longer? Not to mention you can only call 2 sentries and 2 irregulars per village, IRRC, and you're spending 1200w total on villages early into the game.

Viable confirmed.


I totally forgot that Boxers doesn't allow your villages to make sentries.

Pro tip guys ignore everything I say about a non vanilla civ

It's actually kind of annoying. If you only send 1 card it's weaker than cm for vanilla civs so you have to send two but then you have way more protection than necessary.
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