Why is sioux the worst civ in the game?
Re: Why is sioux the worst civ in the game?
i've played with nayuki 4 years ago for many times. i played sioux and he go dutch hero card, walls 3tc cm fort tower fi, mercenaries. on water maps he may go water too.
i was a noob then, long before i read goodspeed's guide. all i know is to send units, siege raid etc. no eco, no stagecoach.
however i still has about 50-50 winrate. also in quicksearch i can't use trading post victory, or it may become 70-30 imo.
could umeu be 5 times better than nayuki in defending? i doubt that.
i was a noob then, long before i read goodspeed's guide. all i know is to send units, siege raid etc. no eco, no stagecoach.
however i still has about 50-50 winrate. also in quicksearch i can't use trading post victory, or it may become 70-30 imo.
could umeu be 5 times better than nayuki in defending? i doubt that.
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Re: Why is sioux the worst civ in the game?
Yes trading post victory would be the only way for sioux to win, but as you said, its not the case in qs and imo shouldnt be part of the game anyway
But im totally cool showing you how its done on summer hudson bay or sagunay as dutch vs sioux. Doubt id lose a game.
But im totally cool showing you how its done on summer hudson bay or sagunay as dutch vs sioux. Doubt id lose a game.
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i remembered 2 games with him. on mongolia i siege siege siege, and boom at the same time, go age 4, 4tp train. but i can't use monopoly (tp victory?) on qs! and he won at last: but after 30 minutes.
another one on new england. i totally destroyed his land, and he moved to island, train tons of culverin, and tower fort etc. we both go age 5 and i have 3* better eco than him: but as you know i can't win by 7 tps on qs again. the game last for 2 hours, and he quited at last, so i still won :)
another one on new england. i totally destroyed his land, and he moved to island, train tons of culverin, and tower fort etc. we both go age 5 and i have 3* better eco than him: but as you know i can't win by 7 tps on qs again. the game last for 2 hours, and he quited at last, so i still won :)
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umeu wrote:Yes trading post victory would be the only way for sioux to win, but as you said, its not the case in qs and imo shouldnt be part of the game anyway
But im totally cool showing you how its done on summer hudson bay or sagunay as dutch vs sioux. Doubt id lose a game.
nope. though his defending is great, i still destroyed his defending for some times, and nearly did that in other games.
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Well ye, thats how it would go, but dutch can just raid while sioux cant make walls. I admit, if there was trade monopoly in qs, sioux could win about half the mus
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Couprider wrote:i've played with nayuki 4 years ago for many times. i played sioux and he go dutch hero card, walls 3tc cm fort tower fi, mercenaries. on water maps he may go water too.
i was a noob then, long before i read goodspeed's guide. all i know is to send units, siege raid etc. no eco, no stagecoach.
however i still has about 50-50 winrate. also in quicksearch i can't use trading post victory, or it may become 70-30 imo.
could umeu be 5 times better than nayuki in defending? i doubt that.
Nayuki is terrible though
Re: Why is sioux the worst civ in the game?
britishmusketeer wrote:Couprider wrote:i've played with nayuki 4 years ago for many times. i played sioux and he go dutch hero card, walls 3tc cm fort tower fi, mercenaries. on water maps he may go water too.
i was a noob then, long before i read goodspeed's guide. all i know is to send units, siege raid etc. no eco, no stagecoach.
however i still has about 50-50 winrate. also in quicksearch i can't use trading post victory, or it may become 70-30 imo.
could umeu be 5 times better than nayuki in defending? i doubt that.
Nayuki is terrible though
nayuki is an annoying guy indeed, but he is really skilled in his dark side tricks, you know.
Re: Why is sioux the worst civ in the game?
DaRkNiTe1698 wrote:Explain what?pecelot wrote:Show hidden quotes
could you, you know, explain?
your statement?
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Can't have a serious discussion with an angry person. When I was mad I used to say iro lose to brit lolpecelot wrote:DaRkNiTe1698 wrote:Explain what?Show hidden quotes
your statement?
Re: Why is sioux the worst civ in the game?
Resign vs nayuki on water maps, he will crush any of your expectations to win, and make you feel trash, after getting trashed in a minimum time 30 minute game
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Im not angry, im very serious.
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@DaRkNiTe1698
, you actually can! And, as you can see, he claimed he was not mad. What is your point then? Because other than that I can't see any reasonable arguments from you bringing anything to the discussion.DaRkNiTe1698 wrote:notification
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Re: Why is sioux the worst civ in the game?
Well okay, you think Sioux is the worst civ, I think not. We have different opinions about this.
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i'd be glad to challenge umeu's 4 wall fast imperial with sioux at sometime. would tomorrow 14-15 gmt be ok?
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No, has to be after christmas. In 5 days or so
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DaRkNiTe1698 wrote:Well okay, you think Sioux is the worst civ, I think not. We have different opinions about this.
Great you have reached that conclusion! Now you can justify your opinion and peacefully discuss it!
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Couprider wrote:i'd be glad to challenge umeu's 4 wall fast imperial with sioux at sometime. would tomorrow 14-15 gmt be ok?
I don't think nayuki's land is a reference, only his water is good as far as I know. Maybe it was 4 years ago, didn't play him at the time. Sioux can't win vs walls or water even with siege dance and TPs, that's the conclusion I reached from playing them. They are still fun to play tho, on RE obviously
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Re: Why is sioux the worst civ in the game?
Yeah theyre fun to play, specially because people dont know how to win vs them and cry many salty tears
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I'd say Re Sioux beat or are even with: spain iro aztec dutch Brit port russia. Tough matchups but winnable are jap India China otto. Really hard: french get.
And if the opponent does not know how to take fights, then all matchups are even or sioux favored.
The tricky part with playing them is knowing the slightly or largely different builds and card orders necessary for nearly each matchup
And if the opponent does not know how to take fights, then all matchups are even or sioux favored.
The tricky part with playing them is knowing the slightly or largely different builds and card orders necessary for nearly each matchup
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Now we need a sioux match up and bo guide from soldier.
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But its also fun watching people cry salty tears about sioux being bad
last time i cryed was because i stood on Lego
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Re: Why is sioux the worst civ in the game?
Assuming this is RE Patch, you couldn't be more wrong. Sioux are fine.
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Favourite civs; Dutch/Spanish.
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Re: Why is sioux the worst civ in the game?
Well what are the civs that best counter Sioux and with which units?
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Re: Why is sioux the worst civ in the game?
IAmSoldieR wrote:I'd say Re Sioux beat or are even with: spain iro aztec dutch Brit port russia. Tough matchups but winnable are jap India China otto. Really hard: french get.
And if the opponent does not know how to take fights, then all matchups are even or sioux favored.
The tricky part with playing them is knowing the slightly or largely different builds and card orders necessary for nearly each matchup
Nah, just wrong. THe fact that you even list ports in sioux good mus shows me you have no clue here. As that is the easiest mu for port there is. And brits beats sioux super easy as well. Russia wins easy too if properly played, in fact they do better than ger for sure. Iro otto india can both beat sioux in 10 minutes on a normal map. China and japan crush sioux. Dutch should too.
Spain isprobay the best mu for sioux, and indeed the only one im not sure of if they lose.
You might have missed the hunt part, ofc on ozarks sioux can be hard to beat, but not on saguenay when u just have some decent spawn
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