Lb pike vs lb musk

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Why would anyone make lb pike when you could make lb musk? Sure the macro is harder, but that isn't an excuse. The only downside I see to going lb musk is that it costs more food.
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Hum, pikes can tank in cover mode while lb rape.
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ovi12 wrote:Why would anyone make lb pike when you could make lb musk? Sure the macro is harder, but that isn''t an excuse. The only downside I see to going lb musk is that it costs more food.

lb pike is better. If you go lb surely you put vills to wood - food mainly. So it''s easier add pike than musk
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pikes cost less and do the same thing, meatshield lbows.
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garja wrote:pikes cost less and do the same thing, meatshield lbows.
But Musk also have good DPS, and if you have enough you could go for raid with them
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I'd say you'd prefer not having a 3 res type army early on, because then you'll have to invest in three market upgrades, instead of two. But later on, its probably better to do musk longbow (huss) I suppose.
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dermaxinator wrote:
garja wrote:pikes cost less and do the same thing, meatshield lbows.
But Musk also have good DPS, and if you have enough you could go for raid with them

obviously musk are better than pike they can also shot by far while opponents army are go back. The point is you should go pikes because they cost wood food like bows. So you dont need to switch some vills on gold though. Oh pikes are very good to destroy buildings so nice combo pike lbs.
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garja wrote:pikes cost less and do the same thing, meatshield lbows.
But in general skirm+musk>'musk huss, while skirm+pike<'musk huss
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marco1698 wrote:
dermaxinator wrote:But Musk also have good DPS, and if you have enough you could go for raid with them
obviously musk are better than pike they can also shot by far while opponents army are go back. The point is you should go pikes because they cost wood food like bows. So you dont need to switch some vills on gold though. Oh pikes are very good to destroy buildings so nice combo pike lbs.
Harder macro is not an excuse for not making a certain unit.
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diarouga wrote:Hum, pikes can tank in cover mode while lb rape.
Musk can''t tank as well but make up for it by doing damage themselves.
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ovi12 wrote:
diarouga wrote:Hum, pikes can tank in cover mode while lb rape.
Musk cant tank as well but make up for it by doing damage themselves.
Pike are cheaper and tank more.
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ovi12 wrote:
marco1698 wrote: obviously musk are better than pike they can also shot by far while opponents army are go back. The point is you should go pikes because they cost wood food like bows. So you dont need to switch some vills on gold though. Oh pikes are very good to destroy buildings so nice combo pike lbs.
Harder macro is not an excuse for not making a certain unit.

If you dont accept an opinion just dont make this thread. Pikes better definitely. I am not the only one who think this.
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marco1698 wrote:
ovi12 wrote:Harder macro is not an excuse for not making a certain unit.
If you dont accept an opinion just dont make this thread. Pikes better definitely. I am not the only one who think this.
I wouldnt say that pikes are always better but in most cases they are.
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it's not harder macro is unefficient macro. As I said the only reason why don't go full lbow is to have a meatshield vs cav or to siege. Pikes do both things better per cost.
Also moving vills from gold to wood and viceversa is unefficient.
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mass musk with a few longbow does well. but in lb pike combo, it usually becomes mass lb and a few pikes.
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deleted_user wrote:If I''m going lbow pike chances are I''m being aggressive. You can just mass more pikes than musk in the early game and get more out of them that way. Cheaper cost, shorter train time, higher siege damage. They''re really helpful in the early game. However I think you have to transition to lbow musk after a while because at a certain point pikes just don''t seem to cut it. Plus you have OP musk upgrades in colonial you can utilize and then begin to mix in cav which gets pretty scary for the other player.
Faster train time makes sense, but the costs are very close.
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ovi12 wrote:
deleted_user wrote:If Im going lbow pike chances are Im being aggressive. You can just mass more pikes than musk in the early game and get more out of them that way. Cheaper cost, shorter train time, higher siege damage. Theyre really helpful in the early game. However I think you have to transition to lbow musk after a while because at a certain point pikes just dont seem to cut it. Plus you have OP musk upgrades in colonial you can utilize and then begin to mix in cav which gets pretty scary for the other player.
Faster train time makes sense, but the costs are very close.
Yeah, musks are only 4 villseconds more expensive. I think that in mid to late colonial, musks are the superior choice, but early on the market upgrades are too expensive to get all three of them.
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diarouga wrote:
ovi12 wrote:Musk cant tank as well but make up for it by doing damage themselves.
Pike are cheater and tank more.
I hope they dont cheat ')
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lbs to be aggressive? since when?
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kingofosmane wrote:
diarouga wrote:Pike are cheater and tank more.
I hope they dont cheat ')
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jerom wrote:
ovi12 wrote:Faster train time makes sense, but the costs are very close.
Yeah, musks are only 4 villseconds more expensive. I think that in mid to late colonial, musks are the superior choice, but early on the market upgrades are too expensive to get all three of them.


more siege per cost, better anti-cav per cost, lower training time per cost

and they cost the same type of resources as longbows

i think this is why pikes are better than musks in this context ^^
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diarouga wrote:
kingofosmane wrote:I hope they dont cheat ')
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