MU Table
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MU Table
In my recent game vs sdsanft, I lost in part due to a horrible knowledge of matchups (for example clicking into Ports vs Russia on Rockies).
Can we have a table for ALL civs documenting what kind of strategy is generally best vs ALL other civs? There are hundreds of MU so this wouldn't be easy... but can we start with the European civs? Any one have any idea how this table should look like? I'm thinking a pinned wall with links to strategy articles. Anyone want to curate? Let see how this works out!
Can we have a table for ALL civs documenting what kind of strategy is generally best vs ALL other civs? There are hundreds of MU so this wouldn't be easy... but can we start with the European civs? Any one have any idea how this table should look like? I'm thinking a pinned wall with links to strategy articles. Anyone want to curate? Let see how this works out!
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Re: MU Table
@Goodspeed
didnt you make one once?Goodspeed wrote:notification
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Re: MU Table
This will not be at all controversial.
Re: MU Table
France beats Japan on Bayou.
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Re: MU Table
Dutch lose to Brits.
Sioux lose to everyone.
That's all I got.
Sioux lose to everyone.
That's all I got.
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Re: MU Table
Okay, i am PR 22 so take this with a grain of salt. Here is what i think from my matches.
Spain Piro FF beats British, Japan, China, Dutch easily on maps like GP with TPs. Haven't played against many other civs with this strat, and lets be real thats the only strat Spain has.
Russia is very strong on maps with choke points like Pampas, Yucatan (personal fav for 1v1)
Russia can beat Dutch and Japan fairly well.
Russia has a hard time vs British with its longbows. Go age 3 after cossack pressure ofc.
Russia has a hard time with Germany bc of free Uhlans and guaranteed Xbows. I always try to go age 3 asap after coss.
Spain Piro FF beats British, Japan, China, Dutch easily on maps like GP with TPs. Haven't played against many other civs with this strat, and lets be real thats the only strat Spain has.
Russia is very strong on maps with choke points like Pampas, Yucatan (personal fav for 1v1)
Russia can beat Dutch and Japan fairly well.
Russia has a hard time vs British with its longbows. Go age 3 after cossack pressure ofc.
Russia has a hard time with Germany bc of free Uhlans and guaranteed Xbows. I always try to go age 3 asap after coss.
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In a previous guide. Outdated though.KINGofOsmane wrote:@Goodspeeddidnt you make one once?Goodspeed wrote:notification
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Re: MU Table
Considering that I am PR 25.
China beats Portugal and Holland very well. However, it loses very easy for civilians of "Rush", like Aztec, Russia, Iroquês, Ottoman.
India beats civilians as "weaker Rush Army" as Aztec, British and Russia. And it also beats FF civilians like China and Spain. However, it has difficulties against civilians of semiFF, like, France, Japanese, Sioux, Germany, Holland, Portugal.
Forgive me grammar, I'm using Google Translate and it's flawed.
China beats Portugal and Holland very well. However, it loses very easy for civilians of "Rush", like Aztec, Russia, Iroquês, Ottoman.
India beats civilians as "weaker Rush Army" as Aztec, British and Russia. And it also beats FF civilians like China and Spain. However, it has difficulties against civilians of semiFF, like, France, Japanese, Sioux, Germany, Holland, Portugal.
Forgive me grammar, I'm using Google Translate and it's flawed.
Re: MU Table
Chinese beats Japanese which beats all.
Re: MU Table
Germany > Brits
Germany > Japan
Aztec > Japan
Brits > Japan
Russia > Japan
French > Russia
India > Brits
Brits > dutch
Brits > Russia
French > Japan
Germany > Japan
Aztec > Japan
Brits > Japan
Russia > Japan
French > Russia
India > Brits
Brits > dutch
Brits > Russia
French > Japan
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Re: MU Table
There was one in the start here with a lot of MUs, but in forum migration the table broke and links got lost, maybe its possible to recover some mus searching trough old threads :(
I would love starting one table of those again, and to help filling the blanks we can just make one new MU thread a week to discussion.
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I would love starting one table of those again, and to help filling the blanks we can just make one new MU thread a week to discussion.
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Re: MU Table
I know that if we have an MU discussion flame war will erupt with sirmusket/umeu in the eye of the storm
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Re: MU Table
Sioux loses to all civs
Ports wins vs all civs on EP and EP maps
Ports wins vs all civs on EP and EP maps
Re: MU Table
NekoBerk wrote:Germany > Brits
Germany > Japan
Aztec > Japan
Brits > Japan
Russia > Japan
French > Russia
India > Brits
Brits > dutch
Brits > Russia
French > Japan
depends on the patch
also, I don't think it's so straightforward :(
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Re: MU Table
zoom wrote:Chinese beats Japanese which beats all.
not sure what game you play
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Re: MU Table
@milku3459
The Council Balance Team is working on it. It has gathered over 150 recorded games and the most recent ones, because they involve the newest meta. We aim for 400-500 recs to draw the first conclusions. As diarouga said, there is a very little room for subjectivity that way.milku3459 wrote:notification
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The problem is that there are 28 nilla MUs plus 105 TAD MUs that vary across RE/EP plus some vary depending on map, plus there are also mirrors that have specific strats as well.
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Re: MU Table
KINGofOsmane wrote:zoom wrote:Chinese beats Japanese which beats all.
not sure what game you play
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Re: MU Table
Hazza54321 wrote:KINGofOsmane wrote:zoom wrote:Chinese beats Japanese which beats all.
not sure what game you play
Mario kart
must be
"Losing to Callen was the worst night of my life" Gibthedurrty 2019
"If hazza can get pr42 with team i can get pr50 with 1v1" Gibthedurrty 2018
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Re: MU Table
pecelot wrote:NekoBerk wrote:Germany > Brits
Germany > Japan
Aztec > Japan
Brits > Japan
Russia > Japan
French > Russia
India > Brits
Brits > dutch
Brits > Russia
French > Japan
depends on the patch
also, I don't think it's so straightforward :(
hes mostly right though, only one id argue with is brits russia is even on RE
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but you know, water, TPs, resources...
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Re: MU Table
Hazza54321 wrote:pecelot wrote:NekoBerk wrote:Germany > Brits
Germany > Japan
Aztec > Japan
Brits > Japan
Russia > Japan
French > Russia
India > Brits
Brits > dutch
Brits > Russia
French > Japan
depends on the patch
also, I don't think it's so straightforward :(
hes mostly right though, only one id argue with is brits russia is even on RE
according to this, japan looses vs everything..but japan is no sioux
Re: MU Table
Sioux just looses all. Rest is debatable.
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