China defensive ff
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Re: China defensive ff
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm that might actually work lol.
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iwillspankyou wrote:one suggestion is to delay the FF a little, and ship the "mandarin duck squad" for 500 food. It gives you 8 Chu Ko nu and a flametrower! in your face sepoys!!
I've tried using this card, but I havent found a way to use it efficiently. You see, flamethrowers have 10 range, so sepoys and generally every ranged unit outranges them. One of them will be focus down very quickly, and it will be a waste of 500food (because 8 ckn is a shipment on their own). If you want to make flamethrowers, you need to make many of them to make it worth it, like at least 5. I also believe that units like pikemen, changdao swordsmen, disciples and doppelsoldners from consulate add a lot to the flamethrower efficiency, since they sponge some damage if the opponent fights and snare if he chooses to leave.
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__Uhlan__ wrote:yurashic wrote:Show hidden quotes
I am playing in ESO, come now if you like, I will be playing for about an hour more or so.
Can't, until tonight live USA so it's 3:33 and I'm at work atm. Tomorrow around this time I'll be free though
Ok, this time tomorrow but 1-2 hours earlier if you can.
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yurashic wrote:__Uhlan__ wrote:Show hidden quotes
Can't, until tonight live USA so it's 3:33 and I'm at work atm. Tomorrow around this time I'll be free though
Ok, this time tomorrow but 1-2 hours earlier if you can.
Sure just PM me on ESOC or can talk on this thread np.
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dude use the PM to schedule games! seriously - no point in craching a thread for you MUs this was an interesting thread consider yourself spanked
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Re: China defensive ff
__Uhlan__ wrote:yurashic wrote:Show hidden quotes
India, Aztec, Port 10/10.
India 8 cho ko shipment & minutemen/monk
Aztec focus pokes & age with skrim (but yea I did forget this one probably a hard MU)
No way you win with a port 10/10 lol.
It's map dependent but the Portugal Native 10/10 is pretty good IMO. Saguenay, New England, Andes, or other maps with good siege Natives are where I use it. Can't age up if your TC is dead lol.
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yeah its good on nilla, I send atp 1st card and build all native tp's spread vills on trees around the map, and run around with the cav until opponent rage quits
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Played some games with __Uhlan__ and Umeu, testing how China deals with rushes.
Game 1: Yurashic Russia vs __Uhlan__ China, winner Yurashic.
Game 2: Yurashic Ottoman vs __Uhlan__ China, winner Yurashic.
Game 3: Yurashic India vs __Uhlan__ China, winner Yurashic.
Game 4: Yurashic India vs __Uhlan__ China, winner Yurashic.
Game 5: Yurashic India vs Umeu China, winner Umeu.
Game 6: Yurashic China vs Umeu Russia, winner Yurashic.
Game 1: Yurashic Russia vs __Uhlan__ China, winner Yurashic.
Game 2: Yurashic Ottoman vs __Uhlan__ China, winner Yurashic.
Game 3: Yurashic India vs __Uhlan__ China, winner Yurashic.
Game 4: Yurashic India vs __Uhlan__ China, winner Yurashic.
Game 5: Yurashic India vs Umeu China, winner Umeu.
Game 6: Yurashic China vs Umeu Russia, winner Yurashic.
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rip uhlan
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Re: China defensive ff
KINGofOsmane wrote:rip uhlan
honestly but to be fair I never said they can hold Otto/Russia only India &I I'm certain they still can.
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__Uhlan__ wrote:KINGofOsmane wrote:rip uhlan
honestly but to be fair I never said they can hold Otto/Russia only India &I I'm certain they still can.
i am dissapointed
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Re: China defensive ff
That's how it's done, thanks for playing!
Re: China defensive ff
port 10/10 on ep is really scary. you may lose a village before 700g.
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Good video that represents how the MU goes.
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yXhVj-HaV0[/video]
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yXhVj-HaV0[/video]
Re: China defensive ff
Couprider wrote:on ozark, autumn araucania, sonora etc you won't have food to age up without summer palace 400f.
sadly, these shitty maps are quite common in quicksearch.
Sonora? Isn't Sonora one of the best maps for lots of bison food?
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yurashic wrote:Good video that represents how the MU goes.
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yXhVj-HaV0[/video]
You can just semi ff and win easy on esoc maps. Only on re maps u can still lose sometimes cuz bad res. But semi or even full colonial beats 10/10
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Re: China defensive ff
yurashic wrote:Played some games with __Uhlan__ and Umeu, testing how China deals with rushes.
Game 1: Yurashic Russia vs __Uhlan__ China, winner Yurashic.
Game 2: Yurashic Ottoman vs __Uhlan__ China, winner Yurashic.
Game 3: Yurashic India vs __Uhlan__ China, winner Yurashic.
Game 4: Yurashic India vs __Uhlan__ China, winner Yurashic.
Game 5: Yurashic India vs Umeu China, winner Umeu.
Game 6: Yurashic China vs Umeu Russia, winner Yurashic.
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Re: China defensive ff
aaryngend wrote:Couprider wrote:on ozark, autumn araucania, sonora etc you won't have food to age up without summer palace 400f.
sadly, these shitty maps are quite common in quicksearch.
Sonora? Isn't Sonora one of the best maps for lots of bison food?
Sometimes. Sometimes you don't have a first hunt.
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Re: China defensive ff
umeu wrote:yurashic wrote:Good video that represents how the MU goes.
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yXhVj-HaV0[/video]
You can just semi ff and win easy on esoc maps. Only on re maps u can still lose sometimes cuz bad res. But semi or even full colonial beats 10/10
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From a church unique tech.
Re: China defensive ff
yurashic wrote:__Uhlan__ wrote:I feel getting rushed as China is exactly what you want, most musket rushes or all rushes in general imo (excluding iro,Otto,russia) are easily holdable. I'd much prefer French to try and musk/hus rush me as China then face a semi-ff with stagecoach. and you honestly don't need 700w, a military shipment is fine becuase if he is committing to age 2 play and you hit up to age 3 and pushed back his rush a bit you already won the game. Monk/disciples banner army and a shipment and both batches of mm, is enough for you to get up to fortress without losing much.
Wrong. Strong rushes are not holdable without walls and spending resources/shipments on defence. Skipping wood is bad, it means you only have shipments to fight. You should start with TP and send both military shipment and wood.
Send shipment for defending, then 1000w for pop/rax/consulate? Sounds available.
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Re: China defensive ff
Couprider wrote:yurashic wrote:__Uhlan__ wrote:I feel getting rushed as China is exactly what you want, most musket rushes or all rushes in general imo (excluding iro,Otto,russia) are easily holdable. I'd much prefer French to try and musk/hus rush me as China then face a semi-ff with stagecoach. and you honestly don't need 700w, a military shipment is fine becuase if he is committing to age 2 play and you hit up to age 3 and pushed back his rush a bit you already won the game. Monk/disciples banner army and a shipment and both batches of mm, is enough for you to get up to fortress without losing much.
Wrong. Strong rushes are not holdable without walls and spending resources/shipments on defence. Skipping wood is bad, it means you only have shipments to fight. You should start with TP and send both military shipment and wood.
Send shipment for defending, then 1000w for pop/rax/consulate? Sounds available.
That does slow your powerspike a lot though, i wouldnt recommend it. Gives the enemy a lot of extra time to prepare for ur push.
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