umeu wrote:It's not very strange considering they're by far and large the biggest group, population wise. 75% of the world is "people of colour" People from west africa and east africa are actually pretty different in their physical and biological make up, yet some people just lump them together when saying stuff such as "black people are athletically superior". Whether the traits are positive or negative, judging the individual based on the average results of the group you attribute them to, easily ends up with injustice against the individual.
What I'm arguing is that there are clearly some biological differences between people which account for differences in behaviours, cultures, sports performance. In the whole history of athletics there has only been one Asian sprinter who held the 100 m world record. That has to say something about some factors which make Asians less likely to win sprint challenges, on some biological level. I mean, it can't be just culture or socialisation, obviously lots of Asians tried to become successful at it, but only one managed to reach that pinnacle of performance.
This isn't about race, not sure why you brought this subject here, when nobody even mentioned it before you brought it up. It's about different populations of people across the globe adapting differently to different climatic or environmental conditions, which made them better suited for certain tasks, like running or working in the sun. For example, melanoma, a type of skin cancer, is much less common among blacks and hispanics; sickle-cell anaemia is another example of a genetic adaptation that is more common among certain populations.
It's kinda the same with this whole argument about e-sports and males.
you clearly seem to have trouble understanding what i'm saying. All I said is that arguments construed like yours have been used to exclude minorities from all walks of life, including top sports. The last sentence you wrote basically confirms what I was saying. Let's say Asians are less likely win a 100m sprint, should we now bar asians from the competition? make seperate competitions only for asian descendants? If we had done that, then we would never have had that one guy who apparently turned out to be an exception, and ofcourse we would have noted his absence as justification for the segregation.
Let's say Asians are less likely win a 100m sprint, should we now bar asians from the competition? make seperate competitions only for asian descendants?
And where is that argument I made which is similar to whatever you're claiming? Can you just quote it? Because it seems to me you just like to flame and talk in imprecise terms.
Where did I ever propose to use such facts to ban particular categories of people from competitions? Just quote the argument where I proposed such a thing.
Let's say Asians are less likely win a 100m sprint, should we now bar asians from the competition? make seperate competitions only for asian descendants?
And where is that argument I made which is similar to whatever you're claiming? Can you just quote it? Because it seems to me you just like to flame and talk in imprecise terms.
Where did I ever propose to use such facts to ban particular categories of people from competitions? Just quote the argument where I proposed such a thing.
i didnt say you said that. i'm asking you. please dolan, i know you can read, unlike lejend. you're constantly thinking i'm attacking you instead of reading what im saying.
Well, I never argued in favour of segregation based on biological factors. I just said that most girls probably gave up competing or weren't interested in e-sports and that may be due to biological reasons. But that obviously wouldn't apply to every girl. There are outliers in every possible category. So, if they can compete, regardless of sex, sure why not.
In fact, why not have both sexes compete equally in every type of competition: jobs, sports, esports, driving etc. Without having any special incentives or quotas or w/e. Just let the spirit of competition prevail.
Dolan wrote: In fact, why not have both sexes compete equally in every type of competition: jobs, sports, esports, driving etc. Without having any special incentives or quotas or w/e. Just let the spirit of competition prevail.
Isn't that basically the way it is in everything but sports lol?
Dolan wrote:Well, I never argued in favour of segregation based on biological factors.
I never said you said that. I said arguments pretty much construed identically to yours have been used to argue that.
In fact, why not have both sexes compete equally in every type of competition: jobs, sports, esports, driving etc. Without having any special incentives or quotas or w/e. Just let the spirit of competition prevail.
I'm not a fan of quota's, and I would be totally in favor of that. sadly, as it turns out, there is a lot of prejudice which basically works as a negative incentive, and there's little you can do about it when you're the target of it. Because prejudice is often blind to the realities of the individual and only looks at the world through the stereotypes of group identity. To counter act this, quotas have been put forward as a balance. Don't pretend it comes out of nowhere... Quota's would not be needed if there weren't so many people like lejend in the world who believe that women's place is first and foremost in the house and the bedroom making and taking care of babies, and they feel so strongly about this that they will go around the internet flaming and trolling women who show any sign of deviation from this role, then do you expect they can separate their personal views from their professional views and remain unbiased when hiring?
TheInvincibleJannisary wrote:Really a no win situation for that guy. He would of looked worse if he hit her back.
Bullshit. Just because you have a vagina that does not make you some kind of mythical creature that can't be harmed no matter what. If anyone attacks you, you have the right to defend yourself.
TheInvincibleJannisary wrote:Really a no win situation for that guy. He would of looked worse if he hit her back.
Bullshit. Just because you have a vagina that does not make you some kind of mythical creature that can't be harmed no matter what. If anyone attacks you, you have the right to defend yourself.
There is never a good reason to hit a girl.... just watch this short video
The problem isnt that there is a problem with a male using physical force vs a female, the problem is that even if a male is just defending himself, if police get involved the male will be the one who gets in trouble. One of my old coworkers spend the night in jail because his (now ex) wife was attacking him, he did nothing to her and called the cops, and when they came she spewed off some bs about him attacking her.
iwillspankyou wrote:you can never guess what a post are debating, from its headline. Just took a peek, and this post have turned in to "something else"
It turned into because of mens testosterone levels they will have a higher advantage because of competitiveness. Then they got into have physical strength plays a roll...
My opinion is these stereotypes are unfair and if someone can compete then lets them compete or just have fun... video games are not that serious thus why woman don't treat it as such.
TheInvincibleJannisary wrote:Really a no win situation for that guy. He would of looked worse if he hit her back.
Bullshit. Just because you have a vagina that does not make you some kind of mythical creature that can't be harmed no matter what. If anyone attacks you, you have the right to defend yourself.
Nope.
I will never hit a girl. Unless it's legitimately life threatening but I will not raise a hand on a girl. I'm not scum and those who do are scummy. Sorry
So what would you do you are assaulted by a female? Just stand there and potentially be beaten to death?
TheInvincibleJannisary wrote:Really a no win situation for that guy. He would of looked worse if he hit her back.
Bullshit. Just because you have a vagina that does not make you some kind of mythical creature that can't be harmed no matter what. If anyone attacks you, you have the right to defend yourself.
Nope.
I will never hit a girl. Unless it's legitimately life threatening but I will not raise a hand on a girl. I'm not scum and those who do are scummy. Sorry
i've always thought this was a sort of sexist attitude
TheInvincibleJannisary wrote:Really a no win situation for that guy. He would of looked worse if he hit her back.
Bullshit. Just because you have a vagina that does not make you some kind of mythical creature that can't be harmed no matter what. If anyone attacks you, you have the right to defend yourself.
Nope. But what if the girl hit you first?
I will never hit a girl. Unless it's legitimately life threatening but I will not raise a hand on a girl. I'm not scum and those who do are scummy. Sorry
So what would you do you are assaulted by a female? Just stand there and potentially be beaten to death?
yep. or push her away, overpower her, run away, there are lots of options. but I will NOT hit her
I don't care if it comes off as sexist, I'm not raising my hand against a girl, period. I don't care about if others do it but I'm not
I'd be equally likely to hit a girl as I would be to hit a male. Not that I've hit anyone in my life, but whatever. Women aren't different human beings, and if they're strong enough to pose a serious threat then they're strong enough to get their ass whooped.
