wolfAOE3 wrote:sc wrote:wolfAOE3 wrote:"Russian Hackers" wasn't even a thing until Trump won the election. Does anyone really think Russia is really trying to influence elections? If so how would it benefit them? Leaders change but the core polices never change.
Have you been living under a fucking rock?
"Russian Hackers" has been a "thing" since the very beginning. Russia has hackers, China has hackers, USA has hackers. Everyone has hackers vying for power, influence, intelligence etc. Russia DID influence the US election. Russia HAS compromised our electoral process. Leaders have profound impact on every fucking aspect of how a country is run. Core policies do change. I can't take you seriously at all.
I didn't mean to say it didn't exist at all. What I meant to say is that wasn't such a controversy and talked about in the media every single day since Trump won the election. It appears that the democrats and Hillary are all pointing fingers and blaming everyone else but themselves for the loss. There is a reason hillary lost and it wasn't because of the Russian hacker...
how can you take that seriously?I disagree that presidents have that much influence. Remember when Obama promised to shut down Guantanamo Bay? It never happened during his 8 years and that's one of his initial promises to give people a fair trial on US soil.
Big media is pretty toxic. You gotta ignore the propaganda and manipulation tactics and focus on the issues. You may become nauseous when Russian Hackers is mentioned in the news, because it brings with it connotations of Rep VS Dem, and all the bullshit arguments the media has been spilling. Ignore the clickbait and BS vitriol the media is spewing and focus on the issue. The US Intelligence Committee has unanimously agreed that Russia DID in fact interfere with the election. Russia hacking has ALWAYS been a thing, but in recent years they have significantly stepped up their game to undermine our democracy, and quite frankly, force us into the position we are currently in. This is not Rep vs Dem BS. This is fact. This happened. If you can't trust our entire IC, give up now and tune out from all politics until the revolution because otherwise we are all fucked from here.
Hillary lost for many reasons. Dumbing it down is pointless. I'm certainly not arguing that Hillary lost because of Russia. Maybe that's an argument being made by the media you're following. Doesn't change the fact that Russia played a part.
Presidents are the most influential people in US. Really not worth arguing. It's fact. Their power isn't absolute, but they have the most clout. Just because they aren't able to always get their way, doesn't change that.
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