Dont buy german cars anymore please

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lordraphael wrote:Everyone is doing the same. Its just that VW and all other german companys are the scapegoats for the entire industry now.


Indeed. But, has anybody thought of the idea just not buying cars and using bicycle and public transport. Just a thought. :flowers:
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Asateo wrote:
lordraphael wrote:Everyone is doing the same. Its just that VW and all other german companys are the scapegoats for the entire industry now.


Indeed. But, has anybody thought of the idea just not buying cars and using bicycle and public transport. Just a thought. :flowers:

ye thats certainly what should be done. If you live in a city you really dont need a car anymore. Car sharing, bicycle and public transport should be more than enough.
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Cars EleGiggle

Also you're pretty late with your rant on that emission-scandal
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@jesus3 I was more about the Kartellscandal which is pretty fresh... I should have mentioned that one first then...
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Reminds me of CNN being the scapegoat for the other news networks.
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It's the 21st century, though. Bikes are so 20th century.

It's more important now to get somewhere faster and so do more things in less time, than waste a lot of time cycling back to your home.

When I think about the future, I don't imagine it belongs to bikes.
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@Dolan i strongly disagree... In Berlin we use a combination of train and bikes which is way quicker than using your car. In addition there is not just a time variable in bikes (in big cities the bike is faster anyway) but also a space and a health aspect in there and maybe the most important for me, that you get to see humans and loose the anonymity of a closed car. In addition, big cities beeing considered the most advanced in terms of transport are those, who manage the bike vs car conflict the best -> having a biking percentage of 40% a day (Amsterdam and Copenhagen)
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Well, yeah, if you need to get through an area with congested traffic, you're better off taking a metro train or a bike and you get there faster. But for long-distance travel (between cities) and normal traffic, a car is better.

Also, since I don't have a close-by supermarket, I have to take the car to get to a big one. It wouldn't be practical to haul my groceries a few kilometres just because I'm a die-hard tree-hugger.
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if you had the right bags and an electronic motorization on your bike? why do you have to be a tree hugger to support bikes? i avoided green arguments on purpose in my argumentation...
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supernapoleon wrote:
KoenigRother wrote:@supernapoleon nice morals , worked fine for nazi germany

Just shows how close minded you are, you should be banned for nazi comparision @admins

You're closer to „getting banned" due to your language, now please, stop immaturely accusing each other.

I cringe a lot when I hear all those hyper-bike-enthusiasts that want to reduce the space on the roads, car parks and all of such infrastructure for some pavements and bike lanes. I'm a huge fan of cycling myself, don't get me wrong, though cars are the most effective way of transport that is economically profitable for all. In Warsaw I sometimes used the city bikes, but usually relied on public transport, mainly buses. Still, though, I get the entire point about automobiles usage and value it high.
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pecelot wrote:
supernapoleon wrote:
KoenigRother wrote:@supernapoleon nice morals , worked fine for nazi germany

Just shows how close minded you are, you should be banned for nazi comparision @admins

You're closer to „getting banned" due to your language, now please, stop immaturely accusing each other.

I cringe a lot when I hear all those hyper-bike-enthusiasts that want to reduce the space on the roads, car parks and all of such infrastructure for some pavements and bike lanes. I'm a huge fan of cycling myself, don't get me wrong, though cars are the most effective way of transport that is economically profitable for all. In Warsaw I sometimes used the city bikes, but usually relied on public transport, mainly buses. Still, though, I get the entire point about automobiles usage and value it high.

"Objective ESOC modarator" - doesn't like my opinion and threatens me to getting banned. Even tho I'm no the one who calls other people using nazi methods.
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I guess I'm lucky to be able to use public transportation for free and to not depend on a car?
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lol, don't worry @supernapoleon nobody is going to ban you, above statements were his own views and do not represent ESOC's view, you can enjoy surfing forums :smile:
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KoenigRother wrote:@supernapoleon nice morals , worked fine for nazi germany


Henri Ford played a role in that to. Not that he build them armed cav but still
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kami_ryu wrote:
Lukas_L99 wrote:I guess I'm lucky to be able to use public transportation for free and to not depend on a car?


Well how is it free for you?

I can understand paying for good public transit but I can't see it being free.

I use a car because that is what works most efficiently in the USA. Public transit where I am, is mediocre at best.


When you're a student in Germany you get a ticket which allows you to use public transportation for free in your state, with the exception of those high-speed long-distance trains. But you can use every bus, the tram, the subway, almost any train and can get everywhere. It's pretty cool.
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That's nice. @Lukas_L99

In the USA a car is indeed more needed, but they also build infrastructure around the car. So it gets a vicious circle.
In Belgium 60-80% of the people take the car for a distance between 3 and 10 km. That's perfectly ciclycable.
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Lukas_L99 wrote:
kami_ryu wrote:
Lukas_L99 wrote:I guess I'm lucky to be able to use public transportation for free and to not depend on a car?


Well how is it free for you?

I can understand paying for good public transit but I can't see it being free.

I use a car because that is what works most efficiently in the USA. Public transit where I am, is mediocre at best.


When you're a student in Germany you get a ticket which allows you to use public transportation for free in your state, with the exception of those high-speed long-distance trains. But you can use every bus, the tram, the subway, almost any train and can get everywhere. It's pretty cool.

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:chinese: er :chinese: @kami_ryu just dont buy german cars :ship: :ship: :mrgreen:
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Dolan wrote:It's the 21st century, though. Bikes are so 20th century.

It's more important now to get somewhere faster and so do more things in less time, than waste a lot of time cycling back to your home.

When I think about the future, I don't imagine it belongs to bikes.



I disagree. While i don't think that time is more valuable now, i gotta say that nowadays the pace of our lives is surely faster than what it was in the last century (jobs are further away than how they were 50 years ago, probably the lunch break is shorter and whatnot). Still, for distances up to 5 km i think that the bike is probably the best solution, since there is at worst a 10 minutes difference between the time that it takes to run a 5 km distance by bike and by car, and i don't think that 15/20 minutes per day is a huge loss.
Obviously a car is always useful if you need to do shopping or go to another town since public transport is not always at its best efficiency, but this is another topic. I wouldn't say that the issue with bikes is the extra time that you spend traveling compared to a car, speaking of short distances. A car can always come in handy so it is mandatory to have at least 1 per family but i think a lot of people over-rely on it. You should also keep in mind that if you use your bike regularly you are also going to save a decent amount of money and you are also going to be more healty.
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I always feel like sitting in a car is a waste of time. I don't own one and probably won't unless I end up in a situation where it is a necessity. Though I imagine I'd try and avoid ending up in a situation like that.
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WickedCossack wrote:I always feel like sitting in a car is a waste of time. I don't own one and probably won't unless I end up in a situation where it is a necessity. Though I imagine I'd try and avoid ending up in a situation like that.

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