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I wonder if lejend is just Umeu's smurf.
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umeu wrote:
lejend wrote:I am assuming most living expenses will be taken care of by parents/govt/whatever. You need only around a few thousand dollars to get started, and it snowballs from there.


Oh. Youre assuming. I thought you were speaking from experience. How naive of me.


Well entrepreneurship isn't the only type of investment. It has a high rate of failure, but I'd argue it's less risky than relying on a job or the government this century. But you're right that I'm talking about delaying gratification, being creative, taking big risks and really educating yourself.


A bunch of big empty words formed into a sentence. Are you sure you didnt study?

Otherwise you can be like everyone else: take few risks but accomplish few things. It's that fear of failure and standing out that keeps people in mediocrity, and away from success.


And why do you specifically crave for this success?

Why aren't you in diplomacy lol
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InsectPoison wrote:I applied to 5 unis and got rejected by all, maybe i am not good enough for Uni and should go another route.


apply again with better marks and better looks, and a cooler name. fake news are just going with the flow of 2k17.

in my interview for uni i told them ill apply again until they let me study here, eventually the interviewer just didnt want to see my face again, and that was reason enough....
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Finally got accepted by a uni , so happy right now. Thanks for all the tips @jesus3 @Gendarme @WickedCossack
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Haha great job! Good course?
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Well that was fast.
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Jam wrote:Well that was fast.


The process is really streamlined in the UK. From reading posts in this thread it sounds like it's very different in other countries.
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congrats @InsectPoison

WickedCossack wrote:
Jam wrote:Well that was fast.



The process is really streamlined in the UK. From reading posts in this thread it sounds like it's very different in other countries.


In Germany it really depends on the subject and University. Some don't even answer at all, my current one got back to me after three days which is insanely fast
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Congrats.

What are you gonna study?
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lejend wrote:Well entrepreneurship isn't the only type of investment. It has a high rate of failure, but I'd argue it's less risky than relying on a job or the government this century. But you're right that I'm talking about delaying gratification, being creative, taking big risks and really educating yourself.

delaying gratification, being creative, taking big risks, indeed few people are capable of doing that. Lot's of kids also can't afford to take that risk, since they don't have parents as a backup plan. It's already pretty tough for the kids that don't have to worry about food or paying rent. The few entrepreneur that really do succeed work a lot, as much as high finance guys. I also heard about people having a lifestyle business - which sounds great - and that the "4 hour workweek" book was excellent to learn how to do that.
Honestly, I don't think there is any risk in getting an accounting degree and working at a big 4 your whole life and some people are perfectly content with that. To each his own.

Otherwise you can be like everyone else: take few risks but accomplish few things. It's that fear of failure and standing out that keeps people in mediocrity, and away from success.

Well I'd argue that you can take measured risks while having a college degree as a backup plan. Those who "make it" as entrepreneur nowadays are - to take an extreme - evan spiegel, who went to stanford + had connections through his father.
Tons fail because they lack the credentials that venture capital/seed accelerators are looking for. My point is, being an entrepreneur without a degree (or at least dropping out) makes it even harder if you aim big. If you don't, these lifestyle businesses seem like an interesting option but I don't know much about it. Just heard a few cool stories.

What happens if you can't make it as an entrepreneur, lack the motivation, and become an unemployed 30 years old with no degree and a succession of failure on your resume?

In the end, I'd still recommend going to college for a regular person, who isn't particularly smart and/or driven. Most people are perfectly fine with what you would consider a mediocre life.
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Dolan wrote:Congrats.

What are you gonna study?

Biomedical Science Bsc Hons at the University of Kent. Im quite happy as ive always wanted a more practical and clinical career.
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InsectPoison wrote:
Dolan wrote:Congrats.

What are you gonna study?

Biomedical Science Bsc Hons at the University of Kent. Im quite happy as ive always wanted a more practical and clinical career.

You are going to love it. I'm doing the same course.
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JakeyBoyTH wrote:
InsectPoison wrote:
Dolan wrote:Congrats.

What are you gonna study?

Biomedical Science Bsc Hons at the University of Kent. Im quite happy as ive always wanted a more practical and clinical career.

You are going to love it. I'm doing the same course.

Im glad to hear that.
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lejend wrote:I am assuming most living expenses will be taken care of by parents/govt/whatever. You need only around a few thousand dollars to get started, and it snowballs from there.


Oh. Youre assuming. I thought you were speaking from experience. How naive of me.


Well entrepreneurship isn't the only type of investment. It has a high rate of failure, but I'd argue it's less risky than relying on a job or the government this century. But you're right that I'm talking about delaying gratification, being creative, taking big risks and really educating yourself.


A bunch of big empty words formed into a sentence. Are you sure you didnt study?

Otherwise you can be like everyone else: take few risks but accomplish few things. It's that fear of failure and standing out that keeps people in mediocrity, and away from success.


And why do you specifically crave for this success?

Why aren't you in diplomacy lol


Because i foresaw the problems that would come with so many new players and i dont think its very enjoyable to play such a game. I dont think the game gets better with size, on the contrary probably. might play the next one though
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umeu wrote:Oh. Youre assuming. I thought you were speaking from experience. How naive of me.


Well if Insect's parents care that much about him going to college, I'm guessing they wouldn't mind letting him stay at home for a few years, while he builds his business, if he convinces them that it's an excellent plan.

benj89 wrote:delaying gratification, being creative, taking big risks, indeed few people are capable of doing that. Lot's of kids also can't afford to take that risk, since they don't have parents as a backup plan. It's already pretty tough for the kids that don't have to worry about food or paying rent. The few entrepreneur that really do succeed work a lot, as much as high finance guys. I also heard about people having a lifestyle business - which sounds great - and that the "4 hour workweek" book was excellent to learn how to do that.
Well I'd argue that you can take measured risks while having a college degree as a backup plan. Those who "make it" as entrepreneur nowadays are - to take an extreme - evan spiegel, who went to stanford + had connections through his father.

Tons fail because they lack the credentials that venture capital/seed accelerators are looking for. My point is, being an entrepreneur without a degree (or at least dropping out) makes it even harder if you aim big. If you don't, these lifestyle businesses seem like an interesting option but I don't know much about it. Just heard a few cool stories.
In the end, I'd still recommend going to college for a regular person, who isn't particularly smart and/or driven. Most people are perfectly fine with what you would consider a mediocre life.


Right, but I'm not talking about a million dollar business here; just a few dozen grand a year from a variety of investments. It can be from entrepreneurship too, but as you mentioned, that's a tough job, especially in the early stages, with a high rate of failure.

Venture and even angel investors gravitate toward companies providing innovative products or a social good, I think, rather than random inexperienced kids just trying to make money. So I don't think you need to worry about them in the early stages. Just save up money by yourself.

Honestly, I don't think there is any risk in getting an accounting degree and working at a big 4 your whole life and some people are perfectly content with that. To each his own.


It is "safe", but, meh, it seems inefficient to me. The point is to make money without having to work for it. But. to each his own.

What happens if you can't make it as an entrepreneur, lack the motivation, and become an unemployed 30 years old with no degree and a succession of failure on your resume?


What if you graduate from an Ivy League school with a 200K starting job awaiting you, and on your graduation day some random guy armed to the teeth, declares a beta uprising against you?

Life is inherently risky, so let's not pretend that handling your financial affairs unconventionally is that much riskier in the, grand scheme of things.

What will happen will happen. Rather than be paralyzed by, "what if"s, focus on minimizing all unnecessary risks, and soldiering on despite any setbacks.

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lejend wrote:
umeu wrote:Oh. Youre assuming. I thought you were speaking from experience. How naive of me.


Well if Insect's parents care that much about him going to college, I'm guessing they wouldn't mind letting him stay at home for a few years, while he builds his business, if he convinces them that it's an excellent plan.

benj89 wrote:delaying gratification, being creative, taking big risks, indeed few people are capable of doing that. Lot's of kids also can't afford to take that risk, since they don't have parents as a backup plan. It's already pretty tough for the kids that don't have to worry about food or paying rent. The few entrepreneur that really do succeed work a lot, as much as high finance guys. I also heard about people having a lifestyle business - which sounds great - and that the "4 hour workweek" book was excellent to learn how to do that.
Well I'd argue that you can take measured risks while having a college degree as a backup plan. Those who "make it" as entrepreneur nowadays are - to take an extreme - evan spiegel, who went to stanford + had connections through his father.

Tons fail because they lack the credentials that venture capital/seed accelerators are looking for. My point is, being an entrepreneur without a degree (or at least dropping out) makes it even harder if you aim big. If you don't, these lifestyle businesses seem like an interesting option but I don't know much about it. Just heard a few cool stories.
In the end, I'd still recommend going to college for a regular person, who isn't particularly smart and/or driven. Most people are perfectly fine with what you would consider a mediocre life.


Right, but I'm not talking about a million dollar business here; just a few dozen grand a year from a variety of investments. It can be from entrepreneurship too, but as you mentioned, that's a tough job, especially in the early stages, with a high rate of failure.

Venture and even angel investors gravitate toward companies providing innovative products or a social good, I think, rather than random inexperienced kids just trying to make money. So I don't think you need to worry about them in the early stages. Just save up money by yourself.

Honestly, I don't think there is any risk in getting an accounting degree and working at a big 4 your whole life and some people are perfectly content with that. To each his own.


It is "safe", but, meh, it seems inefficient to me. The point is to make money without having to work for it. But. to each his own.

What happens if you can't make it as an entrepreneur, lack the motivation, and become an unemployed 30 years old with no degree and a succession of failure on your resume?


What if you graduate from an Ivy League school with a 200K starting job awaiting you, and on your graduation day some random guy armed to the teeth, declares a beta uprising against you?

Life is inherently risky, so let's not pretend that handling your financial affairs unconventionally is that much riskier in the, grand scheme of things.

What will happen will happen. Rather than be paralyzed by, "what if"s, focus on minimizing all unnecessary risks, and soldiering on despite any setbacks.

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Lejend, you make some really good and interesting points. I agree with most of your points that starting up your own business and investing can be better than a degree but it can also be the more riskier option. However i still think a degree is a good thing to fall back on.
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He makes some good points, but then links the retard with the Rocky quote. I don't even know anymore... maybe he is a part-time troll.
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You need a network to start a successful business. 9/10 times this means going to a prestigious university and getting a full-time job at a prestigious firm.
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Is that 1 out of 10 times purely based on luck, you think?
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Gendarme wrote:Is that 1 out of 10 times purely based on luck, you think?

Less luck and more towards already having good connections.
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By "already having" you mean it's luck (e.g. through parents)?
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Gendarme wrote:By "already having" you mean it's luck (e.g. through parents)?

Yeah, Rich parents which help you grow rapidly.
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