kami_ryu wrote:People who think that guns in the hands of people in the crowd would have solved anything are clueless as far as I'm concerned. I have people around me who have concealed carry and talk about how they would be ready for an active shooter situation. I'm like ... wellp, elle oh elle.
I don't think this is the thread for discussing gun regulations though. I've beaten that topic to death before and still haven't heard solid arguments for your silly, anti-liberty, gun bans. Half my coworkers are have concealed carry and carry lethal weapons on them. I don't feel unsafe at all about it.
It's not a gun problem. It's a mental health problem.
I think this thread is more about the Vegas victims, though. What's being done to help, etc. I'll try not to derail the topic.
I was being sarcastic, obviously throwing more guns at it can't solve it either. But that's the usual meme-argument used by the right-wing in the USA: they didn't have enough guns to defend themselves.
I still believe this is not just a mental health problem, because motives to kill can be varied. It can be religious beliefs, it can be political issues or revenge killings for perceived discrimination or injustice, it can be mental health, or a terrorist cause. The common thread is easy access to mass-killing devices, no matter what your motive is.
I fail to see how gun ownership helps Americans have less criminality than other countries than if guns were banned. Last time I checked, the USA has the highest rate of imprisoned individuals per 100.000 in the entire world. So, it seems guns don't deter any significant criminality. It could be argued, rather, that they encourage criminality.
It's not just an American problem though, it's worldwide.
Seriously, wtf are you talking about. We never had mass shootings in Eastern Europe. And we banned personal ownership of guns (with a few, tightly regulated exceptions, like hunters and people who need special armed protection and can only get it via judicial decision).