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What is your stance on firearms?

total ban of firearms
17
46%
semi-automatics allowed only and regulated
13
35%
semi-automatics allowed only but freely available
0
No votes
fully-automatics allowed but regulated
4
11%
fully-automatics allowed and freely available
3
8%
 
Total votes: 37

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Sweden Gendarme
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06 Nov 2017, 05:06

What is your stance on firearms? I am very curious. I am not making this thread to discuss gun control, as there is already a thread about it here: viewtopic.php?f=315&t=10142
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New Zealand JakeyBoyTH
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06 Nov 2017, 05:12

As long as proper care is taken with licensing of firearms, such as the police check we have here in NZ, it should be reasonable.

Firearms within properly educated communities (i.e. not yankee doodle redneck rural texas) is perfectly fine. There is just no reason other than museum and educational use for fully-automatic firearms within a civilian population.
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United States of America noissance
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06 Nov 2017, 05:14

People use guns for sports and recreation, but the purpose of a gun is to kill or damage something. If you have a liscence (after vigorous background checks and other regulations), feel free to have a gun. Just dont point it at random people or shoot them.
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Netherlands Goodspeed
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06 Nov 2017, 12:48

Allowed but only in a shooting range
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Germany japanesegeneral
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06 Nov 2017, 13:27

I wonder why this community is so stubborn? Why do you guys want to ban weapons? Everybody needs a firearm. That is the only way to prevent mass shootings.

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India rsy
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06 Nov 2017, 13:29

let's replace all the guns nukes and everything with cakes, burritos, cute puppies and big butts
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Germany japanesegeneral
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06 Nov 2017, 13:34

Weapons dont kill everybody. Obesity does. If i had ro choose i would chosse me some propper guns.

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Canada forgrin
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18 Nov 2017, 14:57

It's important to remember that guns are a tool of the trade for many people in these discussions. Ranchers need them for predator defense, hunters need them, and people who shoot for sport need them. No reason for automatics to be legal here. Maybe it's hometown bias but I think Canada has a relatively decent system; full automatic ban, mandatory licencing with two tiers, one for long guns that's more lax and one that's restricted to range only (pistols + other short barrels). 5 round magazine max for centrefire rifles, 10 for centrefire pistols. There are some weird issues with the Canadian system otherwise but the basis is strong.
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Romania Dolan
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18 Nov 2017, 15:42

Ban, because civilians shouldn't own warfare devices during peacetime. It's at odds with the purpose of having a police force.

Neither should they be allowed just because some people like to target practice. The risks far outweigh the benefits to allow the general public to own firearms. Yes, the same thing should apply to chemical weapons, acids and so on and so forth. A knife cannot kill 100 people in a crowd, like an automatic gun can. It creates far more insecurity and risks than it prevents.
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No Flag lejend
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18 Nov 2017, 16:36

Most of the academic research on this indicates that guns are used defensively more than criminally, and that crime is caused by factors far more complex than, "gun rights = crime."

Firearms are a godsend. "God made men and Colt made them equal." No matter if you're a 5' 110lb girl fighting against a 6' 220lb criminal, or an innocent civilian fighting against a Commie policeman, all you gotta do is spend one second to take out your pistol, point it at him and fire off a shot or two. Problem solved. What's he gonna do? Not get shredded to bits? In real life there's no nanomachines, son. A few shots and game over. There are no Continue's.

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Canada forgrin
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18 Nov 2017, 17:24

Dolan wrote:Ban, because civilians shouldn't own warfare devices during peacetime. It's at odds with the purpose of having a police force.

Neither should they be allowed just because some people like to target practice. The risks far outweigh the benefits to allow the general public to own firearms. Yes, the same thing should apply to chemical weapons, acids and so on and so forth. A knife cannot kill 100 people in a crowd, like an automatic gun can. It creates far more insecurity and risks than it prevents.



Ok, but what about a hunting or target rifle? A shotgun for hunting birds/shooting clays? There are other guns than assault rifles.
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India Ashvin
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18 Nov 2017, 18:52

Am I back in time? No wait ESOC always has such polls once in every quarter year and/or whenever some major shooting event happens in the US.
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