Dolan wrote:@lejend
If your examples with ethnic groups having a higher lifespan in the US compared to their countries of origin were all true, then all ethnic groups in the USA would fare better compared to the average in their country of origin. Btw, this generalisation is yours:
Which would make you wonder, how is it even possible for the USA to rank 31st in terms of lifespan, just below Costa Rica and above Cuba. One or some of those ethnic groups must be trailing behind their peers, otherwise it wouldn't add up.
How would the average of those higher-than-average lifespans come to be lower than the average of their countries of origin?
It's just basic logic.
I said in general, not always. If America is bad for living, why do countless ethnicities live longer than their compatriots in the country of origin? Shouldn't all ethnicities in the US have a lower life expectancy? Japan has the highest life expectancy in the world, but Asians in America have a far higher life expectancy.
The reason America has a lower life expectancy than many European countries, is mostly due to higher deaths due to accidents and suicide. Once you take homicides, accidents, suicides, etc. out of the equation, America actually has a higher life expectancy than possibly every other country.
iwillspankyou wrote:would you be surprised to know that the Scandinavian countries + Finland (the sosialist in your way of seeing it?) all have median income above USA?
Well first off why did you say "Scandinavian countries + Finland"? Just because Finns are ethnic Asians doesn't mean they aren't Scandinavian.
Secondly, that's self-reported income, and should be taken with a grain of salt.
Lastly, that's pre-tax income. What is the point of making 50000 dollars a year if half of it is taxes? If you look at disposable income (i.e. after tax), Americans actually have the highest incomes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income
In addition we all have free healtcare
How is it free if half your salary goes to the government to pay for it?
and dont have to pay insanly amounts of our vages to insurence agencies.
Instead, you pay even more insane amounts of your wages on taxes.
Average income is not a good figure to describe USA in general. due to the gross inequality you have.
It's actually a pretty great measure, because it shows that poor Americans are as wealthy as average Europeans. It is like saying that millionaires are poor relative to billionaires, which completely ignores that most people are far less wealthy than millionaires.
You complain about "inequality" in America, and how rich people make millions while poor people make $24000, but what does that make of most of Europe, where an average person makes $12000-30000 PPP? Are Europeans mostly poor then by your measurement?
And here is your big problem, and the reason for stagnation: When so many of you citizens are one paycheck from bancrupcy, how can you expect growth? The "growty" you have seen lately, are due to credit, and printing new money from FED. Result: big debt, that your citizens are the owner of - BUT the benefit of that Credit have mainly gone to the top 1% mainly.
Uh what stagnation would that be? America has higher incomes, higher economic growth, lower unemployment than Europe.
I would keep my economical system, over yours, every day of the week @lejend
It's funny. If I had my way, and we lived in a world with no government intervention in the economy, there would be nothing preventing you from joining up with your commie friends, and forming your own little commune.
But if you had your way, and we lived in a world where the government ran the economy, what happens if I refuse to participate in it, and instead choose to conduct consensual transactions with people in a free market of our own, without "permission" from slimy government bureaucrats? (and I'm not going down without a fight, that I can tell ya)
Which one of our ideologies is more in compliance with morality and "live and let live"?
You're very lucky I like you, Spanky, otherwise I'd be upset with you for wanting to kill me.
Dolan wrote:Absolutely.
My country has 16% flat tax on income and profit. Next year, we will have a 10% flat tax on income and profit. Also social security taxes will be shifted from employer to employee, so that everyone will be able to pay social insurance as much as they want (or don't want to). Pretty far from socialist or Communist regimes of taxation.
Ireland is also known for having a low level of taxation. I don't know the specifics of their taxation system, but I know they kept taxes low on purpose, to attract big companies there.
If you want to look at a country with a high level of taxation, look at Australia. Their top income bracket gets taxed up to 49% (before deductions). I just talked to a friend from Australia who told me he pays more than 50% of his income on taxes:10% is Goods and services tax
9.5% is superannuation (basically obligatory pensions payments)
49% is income tax (before deductions)
So singling out Europe for having a high level of taxation, just because some Nordic countries do, is an exaggeration and a meme.
Nobody's singling out Europe. You brought it up.
Some countries in Europe have sane tax policies but most don't.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... _GDP_ratio
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