umeu wrote:Its been happening this way literally for thousands of years, or you think twitter is fundamentally different than the old wives gossip club?
Yeah, that's pretty much what Twitter (and other social media) is, an old wives gossip club.
You could say i am a fan. And i do not like this type of gossip/judgment without nuance. I personally dont feel the need to go on twitter and vent. But I don't think there is something wrong with it per se. It depends on the motivation of the one passing the judgment. There is difference between trying to humiliate the other and making clear you disagree with someones actions. Considering that the girl was in function as a public figure, and was participating in a public event, i dont think public scrutiny is out of place. It would be different if we were talking about something taking place in a private setting.
As long as she didn't break any rules, I see no issue with it. She could express her upset as she wants to, imo. I don't see why the public would be entitled to censor her behaviour.
deleted_user wrote:Dolan has transcended simple social discourse -- he posts on ESOC, not twitter
I'm fine with twitter as long as it's not a gossip platform.
umeu wrote:Dolan wrote:Meanwhile some people applaud some American football players for not standing up while their anthem plays. And the Twitter Moral Brigade says that's totally fine, there's no sign of disrespect there.
But if a girl takes her medal off because she's unhappy with the result, then that's such a show of disrespect, says the same social media moral brigade.
Wouldn't you rather see the reverse?
The first case seems more serious to me than the second. It's debatable though. I'm not a big fan of compulsory public display of respect for national symbols either.
So I would probably not care if they refused to stand while the national anthem plays either. Just as I wouldn't mind if a player who lost a match and came second place would throw their medal on the ground. As long as it doesn't hit anyone..
umeu wrote:Which notable silver medal did you get to justify your post authority?
But I didn't go on twitter to comment on what she did. My comment was more on a meta level, it's about why such discussions even take place.
Yeah, I've no qualifications or credentials to go and criticise a player publicly for showing frustration at losing a match. I mean, how's that my business?
Also not sure if that line of thought originates in aristotle, but thats trivial.
It's a well-known, commonplace line of thought from Aristotle's Politics:
Aristotle - Politics
BOOK ONE
[...]
Part V
But is there any one thus intended by nature to be a slave, and for
whom such a condition is expedient and right, or rather is not all
slavery a violation of nature?
There is no difficulty in answering this question, on grounds both
of reason and of fact. For that some should rule and others be ruled
is a thing not only necessary, but expedient; from the hour of their
birth, some are marked out for subjection, others for rule.
The context was that many people are unable to be self-sufficient, to be masters of their own lives, they have this slave mentality which makes them constantly seek to become relevant by clinging to other people's notoriety, by criticising them, gossiping about them, etc.
iwillspankyou wrote:@
Dolan how are your nation doing in this games? (>I dont know - no troll) but even so >(lol)
I haven't been following the winter olympic games, but it's probably Nordic countries that get most medals, because they can train all year round in a naturally cold setting.