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You do realise, Trump was the better choice.., he might make some absurd comments from time to time, at least he isn't a fucking criminal, and the wife of a rapist.

Trump is not a criminal? Lmfao.

Any war that trump would start, Kilary would've started 3 months earlier :lol:
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I absolutely agree that America produce some damn fine students/professionals, that is without a doubt. Unfortunately very few Americans can attend such schools.

IIRC the US ranked lower than some countries you typically think of as "second world" or "developing" countries.

This is not my personal opinion, I just reference, the numerous articles I have read on the subject. In my personal opinion, a country that elect Donald Trump as their president, have issues that goes beyond the education system.

You do realise, Trump was the better choice.., he might make some absurd comments from time to time, at least he isn't a fucking criminal, and the wife of a rapist. Also since when does America have a top 10 education system. Can I have some data or something, maybe I'm wrong. I mean almost all the Scandinavian countries alone have a better education system than America..


instead he is the rapist. which is of course much better.
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You do realise, Trump was the better choice.., he might make some absurd comments from time to time, at least he isn't a fucking criminal, and the wife of a rapist. Also since when does America have a top 10 education system. Can I have some data or something, maybe I'm wrong. I mean almost all the Scandinavian countries alone have a better education system than America..


instead he is the rapist. which is of course much better.

How is he a rapist. Bill Clinton should be in prison btw
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You do realise, Trump was the better choice.., he might make some absurd comments from time to time, at least he isn't a fucking criminal, and the wife of a rapist. Also since when does America have a top 10 education system. Can I have some data or something, maybe I'm wrong. I mean almost all the Scandinavian countries alone have a better education system than America..


instead he is the rapist. which is of course much better.

Not to mention his many scams, lawsuits, etc... What a guy!
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instead he is the rapist. which is of course much better.

How is he a rapist. Bill Clinton should be in prison btw


ill prove my claim when you prove yours
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How is he a rapist. Bill Clinton should be in prison btw


ill prove my claim when you prove yours

Maybe the fact that Bill Clinton was president when NATO countries led by the US bombed Serbia.
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ill prove my claim when you prove yours

Maybe the fact that Bill Clinton was president when NATO countries led by the US bombed Serbia.


i'm talking about rape.

Trump bombed Syria btw.
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Maybe the fact that Bill Clinton was president when NATO countries led by the US bombed Serbia.


i'm talking about rape.

Trump bombed Syria btw.

On the 2nd presidential debate , a women that was raped by Bill Clinton was literally sitting amongst the audience lol.
Yes since the Syria bombings I've lost interest completely. However I agreed with what Trump initially stood for. Mainly his immigration policies.
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i'm talking about rape.

Trump bombed Syria btw.

On the 2nd presidential debate , a women that was raped by Bill Clinton was literally sitting amongst the audience lol.
Yes since the Syria bombings I've lost interest completely. However I agreed with what Trump initially stood for. Mainly his immigration policies.


He's been accused, yes. But accusation =/= guilt. Not saying he isn't guilty, great probability he is. But just based on accusations, Trump doesn't look pretty. Even his own (ex)wife accused him :/ Anyway. Lets leave it here.
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On the 2nd presidential debate , a women that was raped by Bill Clinton was literally sitting amongst the audience lol.
Yes since the Syria bombings I've lost interest completely. However I agreed with what Trump initially stood for. Mainly his immigration policies.


He's been accused, yes. But accusation =/= guilt. Not saying he isn't guilty, great probability he is. But just based on accusations, Trump doesn't look pretty. Even his own (ex)wife accused him :/ Anyway. Lets leave it here.

I mean I mainly have my own reasons for disliking the Clinton's. I think they're just corrupt, and of course, the bombings on Serbia, something us Serbs will never forget. Not to mention Hilary also met up with the Albanian president and told him Albania has a special place in her heart, or something along those lines, what a fucking bullshit artist.
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duckzilla wrote:The US taught western liberal democracies how to be liberal and democratic. Given that there are widespread right-wing tendencies in europe again, europeans would be more than happy about a US assuring them of the rightfulness of their values. This is not the case with Trump.

Ehm, isnt europe the absolute heart of democracy in literally every aspect? I dont think any European country looks at the USA on how to set up your democracy as the american system is very underdeveloped in my eyes. Just chipping in on this tiny aspect.
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momuuu wrote:Well in some aspects the USA is not a first world country actually.

what dude

I mean some of your awfully underdeveloped areas. I think a sizable area of the USA would not score better on many things than the average 2nd world country would.
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duckzilla wrote:The US taught western liberal democracies how to be liberal and democratic. Given that there are widespread right-wing tendencies in europe again, europeans would be more than happy about a US assuring them of the rightfulness of their values. This is not the case with Trump.

Ehm, isnt europe the absolute heart of democracy in literally every aspect? I dont think any European country looks at the USA on how to set up your democracy as the american system is very underdeveloped in my eyes. Just chipping in on this tiny aspect.


No, it is not. Modern democracy was founded by the US shortly after winning independence (~1785) and amended multiple times to make up for initial shortcomings. The political system of the US is nearly 250 years old without any serious changes to it. You cannot say this about a single european country. The closest one would be UK, but they had (and still have?) a strong bias in privileging the old aristocracy.

Europeans like to think they invented this (e.g. French Revolution). But a lot of this was copying successful developments from the US, which tried to seek the perfect balance for their political system. Admittedly, the founding fathers in the US studied the political system of the Roman Republic and the structural reasons for its failure a lot. So you could argue that the basic ideas came from ancient europe. But this has nothing to do with the countries which exist in europe today.
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momuuu wrote:
duckzilla wrote:The US taught western liberal democracies how to be liberal and democratic. Given that there are widespread right-wing tendencies in europe again, europeans would be more than happy about a US assuring them of the rightfulness of their values. This is not the case with Trump.

Ehm, isnt europe the absolute heart of democracy in literally every aspect? I dont think any European country looks at the USA on how to set up your democracy as the american system is very underdeveloped in my eyes. Just chipping in on this tiny aspect.

wasn't the french constitution framed after the american constitution? lol
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I'd argue the enlightenment is the basis of it all though. It's just that Europe had some strongly established monarchies. But if we go 250 years back, I think it's unfair to say there is a difference between "americans" and "europeans".
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Modern day Americans are basically composed of ancestors of European Colonists, African people and Asian immigrants. I would say there is a difference now because of the cultures mixing together for some time. Similar thing is happening to Europe now with the Islamic immigration.

Edit: sry if not on topic, bit confused.
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I actually agree with everything @momuuu is saying, not even joking. And @Mr_Bramboy for that matter. Europe> USA ez
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Its strange how about 95% of the posts are off topic :P
I guess we all have thoughs, feelings, experiences, attitudes - in a big mix toward USA. But that was not what this thread was all about :cry: <I could draw the conclution that you are not informed about mid term election? How many ppl who have to be re elected, or will be voted out?
And this is happening in a Trump administration, with all the frustrations that have produced. I mean, Trump was elected because people believed in his promises during campaign (I think) - but now it turns out that most of it are lies. His administration are tearing down government/administration at an "unpresidented" speed. Nothing much to read about that in the news though. Its all about Russia nothing burgers, and Trumps never ending Tweets and scandals.

As I said, I am on the outside, trying to look in. I wonder how ppl in USA are occupied about the mid term elections? The elections have already started, https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... sults.html
The 2018 midterm elections, featuring hundreds of congressional, state and local primaries, will culminate with the Nov. 6 general election to decide whether Democrats can gain control of Congress or if Republicans will keep their hold on the legislative branch.


I really hope that American ppl are interested/and exited enough, to get out there, and vote in big numbers.
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Googol wrote:Modern day Americans are basically composed of ancestors of European Colonists, African people and Asian immigrants. I would say there is a difference now because of the cultures mixing together for some time. Similar thing is happening to Europe now with the Islamic immigration.

Edit: sry if not on topic, bit confused.


Funny (or is it?) how the original inhabitants aren't even mentioned :roll:
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umeu wrote:
Googol wrote:Modern day Americans are basically composed of ancestors of European Colonists, African people and Asian immigrants. I would say there is a difference now because of the cultures mixing together for some time. Similar thing is happening to Europe now with the Islamic immigration.

Edit: sry if not on topic, bit confused.


Funny (or is it?) how the original inhabitants aren't even mentioned :roll:


Isn’t it like a very slight percentage ? I’m talking about the majorities here.
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I think native americans are like 1.5% or smt of our total population
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Googol wrote:
umeu wrote:
Googol wrote:Modern day Americans are basically composed of ancestors of European Colonists, African people and Asian immigrants. I would say there is a difference now because of the cultures mixing together for some time. Similar thing is happening to Europe now with the Islamic immigration.

Edit: sry if not on topic, bit confused.


Funny (or is it?) how the original inhabitants aren't even mentioned :roll:


Isn’t it like a very slight percentage ? I’m talking about the majorities here.


it's not that you said anything wrong. It's just ironic.
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Mr_Bramboy wrote:Not really. The United States is a modernized third world country with little to no significance in the current day and age. No one in Europe cares about Americans and their backward society.


Look around yourself. How many things that you see were invented/created in the USA?
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He's been accused, yes. But accusation =/= guilt. Not saying he isn't guilty, great probability he is. But just based on accusations, Trump doesn't look pretty. Even his own (ex)wife accused him :/ Anyway. Lets leave it here.

I mean I mainly have my own reasons for disliking the Clinton's. I think they're just corrupt, and of course, the bombings on Serbia, something us Serbs will never forget. Not to mention Hilary also met up with the Albanian president and told him Albania has a special place in her heart, or something along those lines, what a fucking bullshit artist.

Its a US presidential pasttime to bomb other countries. Every president does it. I'm not trying to justify it I'm just saying they all do it.

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