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@lejend being gay isn't a choice. there's no "nipping it in the bud". if you truly believe that homosexuality is a choice, frankly nothing you say matters.
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lejend wrote:
Cometk wrote:@lejend being gay isn't a choice. there's no "nipping it in the bud". if you truly believe that homosexulaity is a choice, frankly nothing you say matters.


If by choice you mean conscious, then in some cases it isn't a choice. But that doesn't necessarily mean it's immutable and can't be changed. Being gay isn't a choice in the way that it's not a choice for, for example, an average guy not to be able to lift 200 pounds. But with a change of mentality and habit, he can change it.

the attraction he experiences won't change. a straight person could be made to perform only homosexual acts, but he would never find himself fulfilled as they aren't suited to what he is truly attracted to.
Being gay isn't a choice in the way that it's not a choice for, for example, an average guy not to be able to lift 200 pounds.

i'm confused by this double negative - could you please rephrase this?
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Ashvin wrote:
Googol wrote:As long as you’re not in Russia or any Slavic/Eastern country, people will accept you for who you are.

Do what you have to do to be happy ;)

That is not a very accurate statement tbh.


It is way more than you might think, and as a fact I live in a Slavic country even tho Czech is considered to be the most advanced after dissolution of Warsaw Pact people are still hateful towards gays.

Interesting thing is that I had a homosexual in my class and once he came up with it, the Russians and Ukrainians especially went full ape shit on him and beat him after school.
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@lejend That is not a good article. He seemed to have had a sex addiction. That needed to be fixed. Not his "gayness". You could change his sex, or the sex of his partners, to female and it would read the same. Being gay is not a choice. If you are heterosexual, can you choose to be gay? You cannot choose who you are attracted to. The premise that being gay is a choice is extraordinarily outdated. There are "gay" genes. Further, epigenetics has shown us that phenotypes can change from the genotype. Additionally, Lots of other animal species engage in homosexual acts. The bonobo is our closest extant relative, and in their communities, they all have sex with one another - males with males, males with females, females with females. There has been a lot of research into all of this. I don't wish to delve into it all here, I really don't have time. I also don't have the energy to combat myths that have been thoroughly debunked. I have a very strong religious background so I have to deal with all this type of shit with my family. I don't wish to do so here. It's utterly exhausting.
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@lejend i suggest you to watch "Call me by your name". It's a great movie.
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Googol wrote:
Ashvin wrote:
Googol wrote:As long as you’re not in Russia or any Slavic/Eastern country, people will accept you for who you are.

Do what you have to do to be happy ;)

That is not a very accurate statement tbh.


It is way more than you might think, and as a fact I live in a Slavic country even tho Czech is considered to be the most advanced after dissolution of Warsaw Pact people are still hateful towards gays.

Interesting thing is that I had a homosexual in my class and once he came up with it, the Russians and Ukrainians especially went full ape shit on him and beat him after school.
I think what he meant was that many people outside of those countries are still very homophobic, AKA many religious conservatives. We have a prime example in this thread. Since their religious texts say that being homosexual is bad, they use pseudoscience and anecdotal evidence to try to show that homosexuality is "wrong".
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This was created due to a thread going a bit off topic. Please continue your discussion about sexuality here. Thank you.
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[youtube]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qzUV25pI1yg[/youtube]

I'll post a relevant part of the movie here for @lejend , who doesn't seem to be willing to watch the whole movie (which i still highly recommend).
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Your God also made Homosexuals, I would assume. Btw, He also made homosexuality in lots of animals. Maybe the animals are godless creatures, made of the Devil himself, to annoy you, and ruin your line of arguments
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Does that video assume that lions gender!???
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momuuu wrote:Does that video assume that lions gender!???

yeah, pretty much. Have you ever seen a female lion? Let me educate you a little
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Maybe that lion doesn't feel like a man?
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I can't believe the sexism ITT.
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momuuu wrote:Maybe that lion doesn't feel like a man?

I would assume the same thing, since it is a lion and not a man :biggrin:
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iwillspankyou wrote:
momuuu wrote:Maybe that lion doesn't feel like a man?

I would assume the same thing, since it is a lion and not a man :biggrin:

You're being awfully sexist here spanky. And then that means I can't feel like I'm a lion?
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momuuu wrote:
iwillspankyou wrote:
momuuu wrote:Maybe that lion doesn't feel like a man?

I would assume the same thing, since it is a lion and not a man :biggrin:

You're being awfully sexist here spanky. And then that means I can't feel like I'm a lion?

What you feel, is what you feel. I will not hold it against you :P
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But you will hold what a lion feels against him?
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momuuu wrote:Does that video assume that lions gender!???


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That is actually what he has been doing since his 12000th post. He's getting quite good I think.
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