Amsel_ wrote: The second is in the United States where immigrants are supported mainly because they vote democrat.
That's putting chicken before the egg. Of course you're gonna vote for the party that's not actively trying to deport you and/or preventing your family from emigrating.
I'm not sure I see your point. You are right that immigrants voting democrat makes sense. It's obviously in their best interest, and my post didn't deny that. I was directing my blame towards the democrats, not the people who vote for them. My reasoning is that democrats in particular support immigration into the United States, not out of charity, but because it gets them votes. Surely you can see the ethical concerns in flooding out a Nation's demographic makeup and hijacking its political apparatus.
Snuden wrote:It has gotten total out of control for past 5-10 years or so, almost to a point where I look at people below 25 with utter disgust. Entitled punks burning mom and dads budget on a college, where all they learn is to play beer pong and use the opposite genders restroom in solidarity!
In between bong hits they complain about how broke they are.
you and myself 2, are the happy ppl getting free education (still free in many European countries). We had some hardships - sure, but not anywhere near what young ppl encounter these days. I know you have children 2, so lets hope they have a deal, anywhere the one we got. I would not hold my breath though.
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gibson wrote:You do realize that most of what all politicians do is to get votes, right?
Yes, of course, but that's not my point. My point is that leftists are purposefully waging demographic warfare against the United States. If the republicans are trying to get votes by giving the rich tax cuts, and the democrats are trying to get votes by threatening America's very existence as a 'nation;' both of those are bad; but one of those is obviously a much bigger cause for alarm. I don't really care for political games or "but he did it too!" I'm just concerned about my country losing its sovereignty and identity.
gibson wrote:You do realize that most of what all politicians do is to get votes, right?
Yes, of course, but that's not my point. My point is that leftists are purposefully waging demographic warfare against the United States. If the republicans are trying to get votes by giving the rich tax cuts, and the democrats are trying to get votes by threatening America's very existence as a 'nation;' both of those are bad; but one of those is obviously a much bigger cause for alarm. I don't really care for political games or "but he did it too!" I'm just concerned about my country losing its sovereignty and identity.
The lefties you are referring to is the Democratic Party, who are now being challenged all over the map, by real lefties. The Democratic Party establishment are not really left leaning. I would say they are more right wing than the most right wing party in my country. As far as I can jugde, both the Republican party and the Democratic party are bought by Big Corp. And this will go on, untill you overturn Citizen United, or untill the "progressives" get strong enough.
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Snuden wrote:It has gotten total out of control for past 5-10 years or so, almost to a point where I look at people below 25 with utter disgust. Entitled punks burning mom and dads budget on a college, where all they learn is to play beer pong and use the opposite genders restroom in solidarity!
In between bong hits they complain about how broke they are.
you and myself 2, are the happy ppl getting free education (still free in many European countries). We had some hardships - sure, but not anywhere near what young ppl encounter these days. I know you have children 2, so lets hope they have a deal, anywhere the one we got. I would not hold my breath though.
Qué?
EDIT: Can you please stop writing "2" instead of "too" ?
We hard hardships? What do you mean? According to the Cambridge dictionary it means "unpleasant conditions"
The only hardship I had was in the 8th grade, when a teacher confiscated our homemade bong - how the hell did you know about that?
"Qué?" I cannot tell if you have any educations - thats true @Snuden. I got one though, a good one and for free. We where lucky, education and money to live for while doing it Thats kind of a bargin compared to many young ppl nowadays
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iwillspankyou wrote:"Qué?" I cannot tell if you have any educations - thats true @Snuden. I got one though, a good one and for free. We where lucky, education and money to live for while doing it Thats kind of a bargin compared to many young ppl nowadays
I have one, with some stuffs on top of that. I doubt the system have changed since then.
iwillspankyou wrote:"Qué?" I cannot tell if you have any educations - thats true @Snuden. I got one though, a good one and for free. We where lucky, education and money to live for while doing it Thats kind of a bargin compared to many young ppl nowadays
I have one, with some stuffs on top of that. I doubt the system have changed since then.
yeah, we are the lucky ones living in a social democracy. I bet the OP are not so lucky Or at least you where, while getting you education.
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gibson wrote:You do realize that most of what all politicians do is to get votes, right?
Yes, of course, but that's not my point. My point is that leftists are purposefully waging demographic warfare against the United States. If the republicans are trying to get votes by giving the rich tax cuts, and the democrats are trying to get votes by threatening America's very existence as a 'nation;' both of those are bad; but one of those is obviously a much bigger cause for alarm. I don't really care for political games or "but he did it too!" I'm just concerned about my country losing its sovereignty and identity.
The lefties you are referring to is the Democratic Party, who are now being challenged all over the map, by real lefties. The Democratic Party establishment are not really left leaning. I would say they are more right wing than the most right wing party in my country. As far as I can jugde, both the Republican party and the Democratic party are bought by Big Corp. And this will go on, untill you overturn Citizen United, or untill the "progressives" get strong enough.
Again, I'm not really interested in partisan politics. It doesn't matter who is really 'left' or 'right.' But I will say that "progressives" are one of the most vehemently anti-border, pro-immigrant groups in American politics. Supporting them fights neither the disease, nor the symptoms. Most of them are actually in on the scheme too. In American politics, "progressives" are a sub-group of democrats, like how Trump-supporters are a sub-group of republicans.
you should know then, that the "progressives" are doing pretty well, taking in to account that they have no BIG MONEY subs, just the ppls little 20 dollars. And no media coverage, and no support from DNC. Its pretty astonishing how good they are actueally doing, against all odds.
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iwillspankyou wrote:you should know then, that the "progressives" are doing pretty well, taking in to account that they have no BIG MONEY subs, just the ppls little 20 dollars. And no media coverage, and no support from DNC. Its pretty astonishing how good they are actueally doing, against all odds.
I guess it's hard to describe the "feel" of American politics. But the current system is so bad that the lack of suppression is pretty much damning evidence that a political movement is worthless. Trump is little more than an inconvenience to them; yet so much was thrown at him that multiple media outlets and social media websites have lost their credibility, and there's even talk of indicting a former FBI Director for treason. If progressives are such a threat then shouldn't they have gotten an even worse backlash?