Man i dont understand

[LONEWOLF123]

in aoe3 they say that Janissaries are slaves but its not treu slaves arent paid well they cant were expensive and fashion clothes slaves are not strong to . In the ottoman empire being a Janissarie means being rich and honorable ,being Janissarie was something like saving your life being rich and sometimes controll the land or the empire .if somebody will ask me do you want be farmer or a Janissarie i will say- Janissarie- ofc i mean what sort slavery is Janissarie rich and honorable slaves???

slave: is a legal or economic system in which principles of property law are applied to humans allowing them to be classified as property, to be owned, bought and sold accordingly, and they cannot withdraw unilaterally from the arrangement. While a person is enslaved, the owner is entitled to the productivity of the slave's labour, without any remuneration. The rights and protection of the slave may be regulated by laws and customs in a particular time and place, and a person may become a slave from the time of their capture, purchase or birth.

[hunter]

The original jannissaries were christian slaves. Later they became the elite unit and personal bodyguard of the sultan. During this time they were most often hereditary and corrupt

[LONEWOLF123]

yes, 1 kid of the 5 kids were taken by the ottoman empire (not from farmers and jews) and the otto give them a good education about islam science and being soldier but is this slavery thats the question i think

[hunter]

They were actually forced to learn islam, serve in army, etc so its one kind of slavery, besides they were prisoners of war, so the victors always treat them like slaves only.

[gibson]

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@LONEWOLF123

[dietschlander]

yes, 1 kid of the 5 kids were taken by the ottoman empire (not from farmers and jews) and the otto give them a good education about islam science and being soldier but is this slavery thats the question i think

Interesting. Do you also know why they didn't take from jews?

[LONEWOLF123]

yes beacuse jews pays more and the ottoman empire dont see them like wariors ,they say they are for the city bec most of them are dealing with trade

[Papist]

Another Turkish revisionist...

If you don't call seizing young boys from the Balkans, forcing them to convert to Islam, and conscripting them into the armed forces slavery, I don't know what slavery is.

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[yemshi]

There is even a textbox on ESO. (Top right)

[momuuu]

It's about how you define slavery. If it was a wanted thing in reality, then maybe you could say these kids are blessed to get that opportunity. But that depends mostly on if they'd be allowed to turn it down.

[Mimsy for President]

That's premium quality slavery compared to what the western powers have done if you think about it.

[Jam]

They tried that with a boy named Vlad once, it didn't work out so well.

[LONEWOLF123]

Another Turkish revisionist...

If you don't call seizing young boys from the Balkans, forcing them to convert to Islam, and conscripting them into the armed forces slavery, I don't know what slavery is.

if you want to prove that my info is not true-false you have to do more than saying "Another Turkish revisionist..."

[LONEWOLF123]

They tried that with a boy named Vlad once, it didn't work out so well.

yes lol , but he is trained in a other school not by Turkish familys and not by janisary camps , he was in a palace in edirne (edirne palace) its diferent but its sad to see something like that , i mean you study in a palace and years later you turn in to a monster

[Lukas_L99]

took you some time to come up with a good response, huh?

[LONEWOLF123]

took you some time to come up with a good response, huh?

lol fun fact : i tought somebody was gona say this
and thx
stroy: i was bussy with some annouying acount things

[Jam]

They tried that with a boy named Vlad once, it didn't work out so well.

yes lol , but he is trained in a other school not by Turkish familys and not by janisary camps , he was in a palace in edirne (edirne palace) its diferent but its sad to see something like that , i mean you study in a palace and years later you turn in to a monster

[NyxAchlys9]

Fun Fact of the Day:
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[yurashic]

Fun Fact of the Day:
Invading people's countries tends to make them unhappy with you.

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[Jaeger]

That's premium quality slavery compared to what the western powers have done if you think about it.

Yes, if you're talking about the Jannidaries. But I imagine thry had regular slaves as well.

[AOEisLOVE_AOEisLIFE]

Fun Fact of the Day:
Invading people's countries tends to make them unhappy with you.

my friend america asks if those facts are legit

[HUMMAN]

Lonewolf is right.

slavery: a person who is the legal property of another and is forced to obey them.

In high medieval ages(time period of aoe3) janissaries had such dominant power they could choose new ruler or throw/kill current ones. They would also make trade and take tribute from their local people. In early periods, Mehmed II established such good centralization it kept a firm empire a while. You look from modern individual perspectif; for an example your ideas would call a serf "slave" but not it is not; it is called serf for its special period. In Ottoman, basically everyone belongs to god so everyone is slave of the god's shadow: Sultan.

[milku3459]

Lonewolf is right.

slavery: a person who is the legal property of another and is forced to obey them.

In high medieval ages(time period of aoe3) janissaries had such dominant power they could choose new ruler or throw/kill current ones. They would also make trade and take tribute from their local people. In early periods, Mehmed II established such good centralization it kept a firm empire a while. You look from modern individual perspectif; for an example your ideas would call a serf "slave" but not it is not; it is called serf for its special period. In Ottoman, basically everyone belongs to god so everyone is slave of the god's shadow: Sultan.

Well since they were property of the monarch they were slaves, although certainly not in a traditional sense. As the years went by, their "ownership" became more and more symbolic, but since they were still property I think they were slaves until they became the Mamluks

[HUMMAN]

And i say no; it destroys concept when you call a specific name with simpler one. We are in a sense slaves of modern culture, working for money; but its more a side meaning, we are not making literature arguing. As i said, everything in ottomon was property of monarch. Unlike West culture there was no feodal concept. No land owners, no right to rule etc. What do we call working slaves in ottoman then, "super slaves"?