Should all drugs be legal?

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I'm so sick of having to wait every month for my 30 day supply at the pharmacy! Dont you guys think all drugs should simply be legal without any regulation? The next time the fucking pharcmacy tells me "sry sir ur to early try again in a few days" IMMA FUCKING L:OSE IT

[pecelot]

great now seriously fck off already, it's not even funny

[Le Dragon]

The mods don't even care any more. Too busy sucking each other's dicks.

[dietschlander]

What drugs are you refering to?

Anyway I do not think should be legal - most ppl are easy addicted to drugs.

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great now seriously fck off already, it's not even funny

I wasn't clear in my initial post so I'll let your flame slide. I came up with a common scenario I hear of way to often which turns people into criminals who were otherwise law abiding citizens.

It's a serious topic because I'm sick of seeing many people getting thrown in prison when they are already law abiding. Is locking people up the solution?

Drugs don't make a criminal but the justice system can make a criminal out of anyone because jail/prison will change you in a bad way.

I'm not sure what Europeans take on this topic is so I'm interested to see different point of views. I agree with some European incarceration system where they treat people like humans and not like dehumanized caged animal scum.

[dietschlander]

I think 50% of Dutch ESOC population are stoners!

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I think 50% of Dutch ESOC population are stoners!

Many dutch people don't consume marijuana because it has a legal market there and thus not a forbidden fruit. Although not totally legal in the Netherlands, it's tolerated if you do it in coffee shops or other places where they will not go after you and leave you be.

[dietschlander]

^ thx for the update. Let me inform you that 75% of neighborhood is stoned

[BigThunderMan]

I think it should be legal, but I don't smoke much because I just don't enjoy it. I prefer the sweet lonely company of a bottle, some lube, and a blow up doll.


(Trying to see how far I can go here, I guess.)

[Papist]

It depends. Do you plan on going to an Emergency Room if you overdose (costing everyone else money) on your drugs?

[pecelot]

If you drive a car you can get involved in an accident for which everyone will play, too!

[momuuu]

I think 50% of Dutch ESOC population are stoners!

Many dutch people don't consume marijuana because it has a legal market there and thus not a forbidden fruit. Although not totally legal in the Netherlands, it's tolerated if you do it in coffee shops or other places where they will not go after you and leave you be.

Actually I wonder if I ever would've gotten around to using weed if it was illegal. I didnt ever try it while legal though. In the end forcing the law on people just doesn't seem to work out. You might aswell legalize it so that you (the government) can get tax money from it, so that you prevent a drug circuit ruling the street and so that you can make sure the quality of the weed that is being sold is up to standards. Those are three arguments for legalizing weed that sound very reasonable in my eyes.

When it comes to more destructive stuff like heroin or cocaine im not really sure what'd be best.

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I've never used weed because it's not worth all that trouble just to get high. I don't think cocaine is as destructive as you think it is and it seems appealing but it's not worth the trouble either.

Some government suits got pissed off at drug users mid 20th Century and therefore it became banned as retribution. I like Donald Trump's view that legalizing drugs is good for business and tax revenue Unfortunatly the religious asshole ignorant idiot mass doesn't agree but we'll see what Donald Trump does once elected. Hillary will be a worse version of Obama and make everything unbearable.

If Hillary gets elected then the agenda will be pushed so far to the left that you'll eventually get banned on forums and the reason will be "just for hurting someones feelings"

[momuuu]

Cocaine is reaaaally addictive though, at least from what I've heard/read about it. Weed on the other hand is not that addictive. If coke was cheaper maybe it wouldnt have such fargoing consequences on someone's life though, maybe its not that bad then.

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Cocaine is reaaaally addictive though, at least from what I've heard/read about it. Weed on the other hand is not that addictive. If coke was cheaper maybe it wouldnt have such fargoing consequences on someone's life though, maybe its not that bad then.

Marijuana is a depressant while cocaine is speed. I've tried other variations of speed such as amphetamines and it's WAY better than alcohol a depressant but that's all I have to compare.

[momuuu]

Well honestly I don't know much about many sorts of drugs as Ive really only tried (abundantly) alcohol, but I can imagine there are some criteria that you can use to deduce to allow or not allow a certain drug. Weed to me seems not that bad at all, cocaine could be a bit over the top, but well I don't really know that for sure.

[dietschlander]

@jerom

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imo that is a bit of a problem... you not knowing because of lag of personal experience (or those of close ones)

believe me drugs are mostly f*cking ppll up, specially long term usage

[momuuu]

Well I listed some arguments as to why you could still legalize a relatively harmless drug like weed, even though it still fucks up lifes.

After all, cigarettes and alcohol are legal too.

[Jam]

If jumping off a cliff was legal would you do that too?

[n0el]

Lol. That's a ridiculous argument

[momuuu]

Im pretty sure its supposed to be. The sad thing about making drugs illegal is that it doesnt seem to achieve anything.

[BraveDryWall]

Face it, drugs are gonna fuck you up if you take them, especially like @dietschlander

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said with long term usage.

[Kaiserklein]

Pretty sure forbidding drugs just sucks. It creates crime, poor quality drugs (so even worse for the consume's health), black market (imagine all the money we could get from taxes...), and we even need to pay cops and jail to deal with all the drug problems, when we have in fact much more important stuff to deal with atm. Would be better if drugs were regulated, sold in specific places, so that the state actually gets money from the taxes as it should, with good quality products. It would even create employment. And I doubt more people would start using those drugs, for example iirc there is a smaller proportion of the population smoking/eating weed in NL than in France...

[dietschlander]

Pretty sure forbidding drugs just sucks. It creates crime, poor quality drugs (so even worse for the consume's health), black market (imagine all the money we could get from taxes...), and we even need to pay cops and jail to deal with all the drug problems, when we have in fact much more important stuff to deal with atm. Would be better if drugs were regulated, sold in specific places, so that the state actually gets money from the taxes as it should, with good quality products. It would even create employment. And I doubt more people would start using those drugs, for example iirc there is a smaller proportion of the population smoking/eating weed in NL than in France...

If that is really true France is seriously f*cked.
Btw pls stop getting your weed from our shops, couple of weeks ago my shop ran out!

[momuuu]

The weed usage in NL is basically just average.