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Re: 2017 ESOC Autumn Preview

Posted: 10 Nov 2017, 21:30
by Kaiserklein
princeofkabul wrote:Why do you calculate some players according to their max elo and some by current one

Nah I just tried to find the best ELO account of each player, but probably failed sometimes

Re: 2017 ESOC Autumn Preview

Posted: 10 Nov 2017, 23:06
by deleted_user0
Lol, shouldn't use elo at all.

Re: 2017 ESOC Autumn Preview

Posted: 11 Nov 2017, 00:11
by Kaiserklein
How would you seed a very good player that would have never played in an ESOC tourney if you don't use ELO then?

Re: 2017 ESOC Autumn Preview

Posted: 11 Nov 2017, 00:20
by zoom
Does anyone know how long ago it is that optimus__prime cheated? He instantly banned me when I respectfully asked, instead of replying "it was years ago; I regret having cheated in the past".

I wish to stress how this is not an accusation, but it's highly relevant since he is in the tournament.

Re: 2017 ESOC Autumn Preview

Posted: 11 Nov 2017, 00:24
by Kaiserklein
He was cheating on Kingreglin long enough ago I think. Problem is that you can't be sure what he's doing atm... There's still some very cheesy stuff going on

Re: 2017 ESOC Autumn Preview

Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 09:30
by diarougaforever
I don't think he cheats anymore.

Re: 2017 ESOC Autumn Preview

Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 11:45
by Kaiserklein
Is OOS considered a cheat?

Re: 2017 ESOC Autumn Preview

Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 11:51
by deleted_user0
Kaiserklein wrote:Is OOS considered a cheat?

Sometimes the game does OOS randomly, for example when I play prince and I'm 100% sure its just random. But of course if you do it on purpose, then yes.

Re: 2017 ESOC Autumn Preview

Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 12:02
by Kaiserklein
somppukunkku wrote:
Kaiserklein wrote:Is OOS considered a cheat?

Sometimes the game does OOS randomly, for example when I play prince and I'm 100% sure its just random. But of course if you do it on purpose, then yes.

100% sure prince just OOS

Re: 2017 ESOC Autumn Preview

Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 12:11
by princeofkabul
somppukunkku wrote:
Kaiserklein wrote:Is OOS considered a cheat?

Sometimes the game does OOS randomly, for example when I play prince and I'm 100% sure its just random. But of course if you do it on purpose, then yes.


yes *cough* *cough* random

Re: 2017 ESOC Autumn Preview

Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 12:12
by DaRkNiTe1698
Sad fact, Esoc accuses me of cheating but I am allowed in playing tournaments.
Even though I mostly play EP and you can clearly see my loss on elo page, I am still judged as a cheater. I would even stream if only my pc was good and I loathe I can't demonstrate once for all that I am not a cheater, but haters gonna hate forever so. The reason that on EP you can't cheat doesn't matter with allowing cheaters to play in tournaments, ban them if they're unlegit, so if I am like pretty much everybody sustain, ban me as well.
I wrote this post because I realized that everytime I join in a aoe3 stream, I get assaulted by cheating accuses, when I only wanted to watch a stream quietly.

Re: 2017 ESOC Autumn Preview

Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 12:14
by princeofkabul
yes if i would be in charge you'd be banned from the tournaments. thank ryan i suppose.

Re: 2017 ESOC Autumn Preview

Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 12:50
by momuuu
The real solution is esoc ladder for seeding. Jap ELO is not functional anymore.

Re: 2017 ESOC Autumn Preview

Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 12:53
by Victor_swe
aint gun be no brazil group6 1st????????? region 8 upset imossibru

Re: 2017 ESOC Autumn Preview

Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 13:00
by zoom
DaRkNiTe1698 wrote:Sad fact, Esoc accuses me of cheating but I am allowed in playing tournaments.
Even though I mostly play EP and you can clearly see my loss on elo page, I am still judged as a cheater. I would even stream if only my pc was good and I loathe I can't demonstrate once for all that I am not a cheater, but haters gonna hate forever so. The reason that on EP you can't cheat doesn't matter with allowing cheaters to play in tournaments, ban them if they're unlegit, so if I am like pretty much everybody sustain, ban me as well.
I wrote this post because I realized that everytime I join in a aoe3 stream, I get assaulted by cheating accuses, when I only wanted to watch a stream quietly.
ESOC accuses you of cheating? When and where?

Re: 2017 ESOC Autumn Preview

Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 13:08
by diarougaforever
DaRkNiTe1698 wrote:Sad fact, Esoc accuses me of cheating but I am allowed in playing tournaments.
Even though I mostly play EP and you can clearly see my loss on elo page, I am still judged as a cheater. I would even stream if only my pc was good and I loathe I can't demonstrate once for all that I am not a cheater, but haters gonna hate forever so. The reason that on EP you can't cheat doesn't matter with allowing cheaters to play in tournaments, ban them if they're unlegit, so if I am like pretty much everybody sustain, ban me as well.
I wrote this post because I realized that everytime I join in a aoe3 stream, I get assaulted by cheating accuses, when I only wanted to watch a stream quietly.

People don't really think you cheat lol.
They say you cheat because then you get mad.

Re: 2017 ESOC Autumn Preview

Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 13:25
by princeofkabul
diarougaforever wrote:
DaRkNiTe1698 wrote:Sad fact, Esoc accuses me of cheating but I am allowed in playing tournaments.
Even though I mostly play EP and you can clearly see my loss on elo page, I am still judged as a cheater. I would even stream if only my pc was good and I loathe I can't demonstrate once for all that I am not a cheater, but haters gonna hate forever so. The reason that on EP you can't cheat doesn't matter with allowing cheaters to play in tournaments, ban them if they're unlegit, so if I am like pretty much everybody sustain, ban me as well.
I wrote this post because I realized that everytime I join in a aoe3 stream, I get assaulted by cheating accuses, when I only wanted to watch a stream quietly.

People don't really think you cheat lol.
They say you cheat because then you get mad.


So you're saying those 10 games I had vs him on unknown accounts ended up out of synching accidentally?

Re: 2017 ESOC Autumn Preview

Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 13:32
by KINGofOsmane
oos1698

Re: 2017 ESOC Autumn Preview

Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 14:06
by diarougaforever
princeofkabul wrote:
diarougaforever wrote:
DaRkNiTe1698 wrote:Sad fact, Esoc accuses me of cheating but I am allowed in playing tournaments.
Even though I mostly play EP and you can clearly see my loss on elo page, I am still judged as a cheater. I would even stream if only my pc was good and I loathe I can't demonstrate once for all that I am not a cheater, but haters gonna hate forever so. The reason that on EP you can't cheat doesn't matter with allowing cheaters to play in tournaments, ban them if they're unlegit, so if I am like pretty much everybody sustain, ban me as well.
I wrote this post because I realized that everytime I join in a aoe3 stream, I get assaulted by cheating accuses, when I only wanted to watch a stream quietly.

People don't really think you cheat lol.
They say you cheat because then you get mad.


So you're saying those 10 games I had vs him on unknown accounts ended up out of synching accidentally?

Ah oos.
I thought you were accusing him of dropping or moesbaring, in which case it's easy to prove he doesn't do that.
What sucks with oos is that you have no way to prove the opponent did that unless you're streaming.

That doesn't really surprise me though, I knew he wasn't a legit 2300 elos from the games I've played with him, I thought it was because of noobbashing, but apparently it's not only that :P

Back to the tourney topic, I don't think that banning cheaters would be really fair since many ex cheaters are allowed to sign up, but giving cheaters a free run to RO32 because of their high elo really sucks.

Re: 2017 ESOC Autumn Preview

Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 14:27
by DaRkNiTe1698
princeofkabul wrote:
diarougaforever wrote:
DaRkNiTe1698 wrote:Sad fact, Esoc accuses me of cheating but I am allowed in playing tournaments.
Even though I mostly play EP and you can clearly see my loss on elo page, I am still judged as a cheater. I would even stream if only my pc was good and I loathe I can't demonstrate once for all that I am not a cheater, but haters gonna hate forever so. The reason that on EP you can't cheat doesn't matter with allowing cheaters to play in tournaments, ban them if they're unlegit, so if I am like pretty much everybody sustain, ban me as well.
I wrote this post because I realized that everytime I join in a aoe3 stream, I get assaulted by cheating accuses, when I only wanted to watch a stream quietly.

People don't really think you cheat lol.
They say you cheat because then you get mad.


So you're saying those 10 games I had vs him on unknown accounts ended up out of synching accidentally?
We don't like each other so I don't expect any mature post from you sadly, but my other accs are shared accs, just saying . Marco is my only main

Re: 2017 ESOC Autumn Preview

Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 15:20
by Hidddy_
diarougaforever wrote:
DaRkNiTe1698 wrote:Sad fact, Esoc accuses me of cheating but I am allowed in playing tournaments.
Even though I mostly play EP and you can clearly see my loss on elo page, I am still judged as a cheater. I would even stream if only my pc was good and I loathe I can't demonstrate once for all that I am not a cheater, but haters gonna hate forever so. The reason that on EP you can't cheat doesn't matter with allowing cheaters to play in tournaments, ban them if they're unlegit, so if I am like pretty much everybody sustain, ban me as well.
I wrote this post because I realized that everytime I join in a aoe3 stream, I get assaulted by cheating accuses, when I only wanted to watch a stream quietly.

People don't really think you cheat lol.
They say you cheat because then you get mad.

lol I told him this but he still gets mad, the trolling is getting to him

Re: 2017 ESOC Autumn Preview

Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 15:21
by lordraphael
Hidddy_ wrote:
diarougaforever wrote:
DaRkNiTe1698 wrote:Sad fact, Esoc accuses me of cheating but I am allowed in playing tournaments.
Even though I mostly play EP and you can clearly see my loss on elo page, I am still judged as a cheater. I would even stream if only my pc was good and I loathe I can't demonstrate once for all that I am not a cheater, but haters gonna hate forever so. The reason that on EP you can't cheat doesn't matter with allowing cheaters to play in tournaments, ban them if they're unlegit, so if I am like pretty much everybody sustain, ban me as well.
I wrote this post because I realized that everytime I join in a aoe3 stream, I get assaulted by cheating accuses, when I only wanted to watch a stream quietly.

People don't really think you cheat lol.
They say you cheat because then you get mad.

lol I told him this but he still gets mad, the trolling is getting to him

oh poor guy :(((( I feel so sorry for him

Re: 2017 ESOC Autumn Preview

Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 15:47
by princeofkabul
DaRkNiTe1698 wrote:
princeofkabul wrote:
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So you're saying those 10 games I had vs him on unknown accounts ended up out of synching accidentally?
We don't like each other so I don't expect any mature post from you sadly, but my other accs are shared accs, just saying . Marco is my only main


you are probably the last person who can talk about maturity. And you think i haven't played vs your "main" when this oos phenomena has occurred?

Re: 2017 ESOC Autumn Preview

Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 15:52
by princeofkabul
so in other words stop lying and come clean you fucking weasel

Re: 2017 ESOC Autumn Preview

Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 16:14
by KINGofOsmane
tedere12 wrote:well it's not only the oos. But It wouldn't make sense too ban all people that have previously cheated yeah.

ohoho whats that :O