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Autumn 2017 Betting discussion thread

Posted: 07 Nov 2017, 13:07
by Goodspeed
Hello,

Feel free to discuss anything related to betting here. Further betting updates will be posted in this thread, and all participants will be tagged in them. So if you're a better, keep an eye on your notifications in the top right.

My strategy: Betting on the underdogs, making some big wins here and there but eventually losing it all like I always do :sad:

Sign ups & rules: viewtopic.php?f=19&t=12628

Re: Autumn 2017 Betting discussion thread

Posted: 07 Nov 2017, 13:16
by Gendarme
You snowball pretty easily, so it's about those early wins. This is why everyone needs to participate in the betting early on to not fall behind!

...hehehe...

Re: Autumn 2017 Betting discussion thread

Posted: 07 Nov 2017, 13:19
by Goodspeed
Well, people have certainly come back from nothing to win the event before. Especially in the later rounds people often throw a lot of points in the mix, and the wins tend to be huge.

Re: Autumn 2017 Betting discussion thread

Posted: 07 Nov 2017, 13:45
by zoom
It's about early wins and donations, in my experience.

Have there been any changes to the rules?

Re: Autumn 2017 Betting discussion thread

Posted: 07 Nov 2017, 17:59
by japanesegeneral
Has someone done an elo based empiric expected value yet? Might be fun to just bet based on data from past tournaments.

#iloveempiricstudies

Re: Autumn 2017 Betting discussion thread

Posted: 19 Nov 2017, 17:12
by Goodspeed
@QueenOfdestiny You can't bet on your own matches except on you winning and you winning 2-0. I undid your other bets

Re: Autumn 2017 Betting discussion thread

Posted: 19 Nov 2017, 18:51
by QueenOfdestiny
Goodspeed wrote:@QueenOfdestiny You can't bet on your own matches except on you winning and you winning 2-0. I undid your other bets

i didnt know that :unsure:

Re: Autumn 2017 Betting discussion thread

Posted: 19 Nov 2017, 21:25
by Goodspeed
queenofdestiny wrote:
Goodspeed wrote:@QueenOfdestiny You can't bet on your own matches except on you winning and you winning 2-0. I undid your other bets

i didnt know that :unsure:
Almost 2-0 though. Good try

Re: Autumn 2017 Betting discussion thread

Posted: 19 Nov 2017, 21:32
by Gendarme
queenofdestiny wrote:
Goodspeed wrote:@QueenOfdestiny You can't bet on your own matches except on you winning and you winning 2-0. I undid your other bets

i didnt know that :unsure:
It is a standard rule in betting. If you were going to win 2-0 but you had bet on yourself 2-1 it would give you reasons to intentionally throw the second game to win money. This has been a problem in professional sports before (and perhaps still is) and is never allowed.

Re: Autumn 2017 Betting discussion thread

Posted: 19 Nov 2017, 21:32
by Cometk
fuck this gay earth

Re: Autumn 2017 Betting discussion thread

Posted: 19 Nov 2017, 21:42
by Goodspeed
japanesegeneral wrote:Has someone done an elo based empiric expected value yet? Might be fun to just bet based on data from past tournaments.

#iloveempiricstudies
I don't think there's enough data to do it based on past tournaments, but one could certainly do it based on elo. Problem would be that elo is often inaccurate because people are inactive or play mostly unrated games.

Re: Autumn 2017 Betting discussion thread

Posted: 19 Nov 2017, 21:45
by zoom
Cometk wrote:fuck this gay earth
Please don't use that word. That word is hurtful.

Re: Autumn 2017 Betting discussion thread

Posted: 19 Nov 2017, 21:51
by Goodspeed
The first results are in. QueenOfdestiny got pretty close to sweeping deadrising78, which would've been bad news for a lot of people and very good news for some (most notably @Kaiserklein). But deadrising ended up winning 2-1, which still wasn't the most expected result but certainly less exciting. @blackwidow takes home the biggest win, 2324 points, and is our first man to beat. The second result, bwinner1 2-0 purple_squid, was expected and therefore unimpactful, although betting legend @zoom did manage to throw away 1350 points there.

Standings

The finished matches have been replaced by two new ones. Both are scheduled to be played this Wednesday evening. Be sure to get your bets in on time!
Major_Dark vs Templar_
jesus3 vs Tedere12


GL!

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Re: Autumn 2017 Betting discussion thread

Posted: 19 Nov 2017, 22:01
by Kaiserklein
Just give queen control groups, and I win the betting event

Re: Autumn 2017 Betting discussion thread

Posted: 19 Nov 2017, 22:33
by pecelot
I would like to donate 499 points to the Comet, k?

Re: Autumn 2017 Betting discussion thread

Posted: 19 Nov 2017, 23:32
by Goodspeed
Done. @Cometk

Re: Autumn 2017 Betting discussion thread

Posted: 20 Nov 2017, 01:54
by Hazza54321
can you remove my tag, im not in it :p

Re: Autumn 2017 Betting discussion thread

Posted: 20 Nov 2017, 02:31
by Cometk
pecelot wrote:I would like to donate 499 points to the Comet, k?
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Re: Autumn 2017 Betting discussion thread

Posted: 20 Nov 2017, 16:00
by musketeer925
Might be of interest to betters:

viewtopic.php?f=28&t=3884&p=269939#p269939

Also, @Goodspeed do you mind if I move this thread (as well as the signups) to the discussion section for the tournament?

Re: Autumn 2017 Betting discussion thread

Posted: 20 Nov 2017, 16:06
by Goodspeed
That's fine with me. The sign ups I always post in general for visibility, but that's not important anymore now.

Re: Autumn 2017 Betting discussion thread

Posted: 20 Nov 2017, 22:04
by japanesegeneral
@tedere12 please team up with me in the betting event let Jesus win the series 2-0.

Re: Autumn 2017 Betting discussion thread

Posted: 20 Nov 2017, 22:07
by tedere12
lol

Re: Autumn 2017 Betting discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2017, 20:44
by Goodspeed
@blackwidow's reign was as short-lived as they come. He was stomped from his throne by none other than @aqwer, who is no stranger to winning points this event. It took him only 4 matches to break 10000, which is record-breaking speed. Well done!
He's still in first, but did drop some points and currently sits at 9404. Lurking in his shadow is @musketeer925, on 8160 points, and looking at this kid's bets he's only got one direction to go: up. With 5 matches played, the first consistency scores are showing on the standings sheet (column F) and musketeer925 is the only one boasting that sought-after flawless record. Clearly, this is a man we need to keep an eye on.

We have a bunch of matches still to go this round. Good thing we had 2 weeks for this one. Bets have been opened for another 3 matches. It looks like all will be played in the weekend.
_NT_sven vs ottolol
JorisIV vs GiBthedurrty
KingRichardIIII vs Hidalgito


May the betting Gods favour ye!

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Steakgrillé wrote:.

@macacoalbino
@dicktator_
@giveuanxiety
@_LeGiT
@Kaiserklein
@lemmings121
@thakronickid420
@eulergauss
@KINGofOsmane
@jorisiv
@milku3459
@blackwidow
@JJS
@roiarthurbis
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Für great Faulo wrote:.

@thebritish
@Interjection
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Re: Autumn 2017 Betting discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2017, 21:30
by musketeer925
It may be my first time, but I'm no stranger to statistics. Watch out, @aqwer.

Re: Autumn 2017 Betting discussion thread

Posted: 22 Nov 2017, 22:29
by Gendarme
> be me
> be unlucky first rounds
> lose all points but 147
> end up winning betting event nonetheless
> mfw