Who should go to the final ?
Who should go to the final ?
Kynesie and Tit won the serie but there was lag which is according to the other team due to one of them, so who should go to the final ?
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Re: Who should go to the final ?
The game should have either been stopped before 2 minutes or left running. It is not okay for the game to be rehosted when it was basically over.
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Re: Who should go to the final ?
gryphoon94 wrote:The game should have either been stopped before 2 minutes or left running. It is not okay for the game to be rehosted when it was basically over.
I am still waiting for you to play the RO32. Do you have a 5hours lag ?
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Tedere and Aragun
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tedere8 and AraGun_OP
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Re: Who should go to the final ?
I should go there as a caster
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Isn't ramex12 one of veni's accounts?
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kami_ryu wrote:Isn't ramex12 one of veni's accounts?
Ramex12 is teamed with Ramex19, where Ramex19 is Veni.
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Ramex is a person who is not veni?
God I'm so clueless
God I'm so clueless
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Re: Who should go to the final ?
Ramex12 = Ramex12
Ramex19 = Veni
Ramex19 = Veni
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Re: Who should go to the final ?
both ramex used to be not veni. can you imagine that
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Me tedere and garja.
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kami_ryu wrote:Ramex is a person who is not veni?
God I'm so clueless
That's not even talking about ramex54321
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You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.lordraphael wrote:both ramex used to be not veni. can you imagine that
Pay more attention to detail.
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Gendarme wrote:You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.lordraphael wrote:both ramex used to be not veni. can you imagine that
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Googol wrote:Gendarme wrote:You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.lordraphael wrote:both ramex used to be not veni. can you imagine that
Imagine there’s no heaven, it’s easy if you try.
so there is no chance to meet fred in the afterlife?
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Hi I don't really know what's going on very well since pushing a train right now after towing plane, but if you need players for the finals I'm available now
oranges.
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kami_ryu wrote:Ramex is a person who is not veni?
God I'm so clueless
Ramex12 is Ramex19's brother. Ramex19 gave his account to Veni.
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yurashic wrote:kami_ryu wrote:Ramex is a person who is not veni?
God I'm so clueless
Ramex12 is Ramex19's brother. Ramex19 gave his account to Veni.
Damn I always thought veni and ramex were brothers! Probably cuz of this confusion
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Re: Who should go to the final ?
bwinner1 wrote:Kynesie and Tit won the serie but there was lag which is according to the other team due to one of them, so who should go to the final ?
why am I not surprised?
Why a team of laggers are allowed to join in every tournament so far, I don't know... Right?! TITITIES
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Re: Who should go to the final ?
venis complaining is probably just covering up how much he lags everygame
Re: Who should go to the final ?
Hazza54321 wrote:venis complaining is probably just covering up how much he lags everygame
(I don't wanna sleep 5am)
On topic, the game was hardly playable from the beginning and the team of ramexes had asked to pause and check, however there was no dramatic change, yet the decision was postponed till the 27th minute.
In my personal opinion the motivation to play such a game becomes lower and you expect the players to readily give up. The momement the resign button was hit by ramex team, I wasn't expecting a different outcome. Theoretically, the issue should have been dealt already within the first two minutes, which is plenty of time for the caster (for possible solutions see Wardyb1 viewtopic.php?p=304686#p304686). Ramexes having given up on a fix of the lag, they played and lost the game, although they shouldn't be in a position to be doing as such; therefore the win unavailably goes to tit and kynesie, and should forward to the finals.
This incident is not the first, and ESOC should have acted quickly and beforehand. We need to be quick to make this change in status.The rules on that matter need to be refreshed and restated.
P.S. In the poll I voted Ramexes, because they were driven into a game they could otherwise.
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Re: Who should go to the final ?
Because there is always so much misinformation and people drawing conclusions based on half the facts (hey its almost the 'real' world)...:
- Ramex12 is Ramex. Ramex19 is his account which I use(d).
- We did point out several times that it was so laggy, also in the games before. The caster itself even did and it clearly shows in the streams as well. Furrthermore, others who previously played vs this team have said the same.
- In game 3 I told very early that it lagged and later, far before it was over, but it seemed we had no option to stop. There are many more moments after that where you see clear freezes and lagg spikes. Including the major deciding battle where Ramex's goon running into ashi, my arrow knights/mace into the hus/ashi mix, etc. And then im not even talking about the fact that your automatic play and 'flow' gets messed up and motivation dissapears. Im not used to clicking 5 times to get 1 command in, no.
- Admins should be there in the semifinals to take action if needed...Would also prevent the awkward situation we are in right now.
- Should we have just ignored the info from the caster/admin and disagree to play and stall everything in a childish way? Seems so. We played on because we thought we had to and it was already getting late (Kynesie coming after 1 hour instead of 20-30 min as claimed by Tit doesnt help either).
- Its very convenient for them that there is always lagg, which they are used to and we are not, same in game 1 and 2. And last I checked, isnt how a competitive later round tourney should go. Also, when in game 1 they play with goon/lb the lagg is 'ok', but when we play skirm/mace/goon and they got hus and ashi it suddenly has huge freezes.
- Ppl that know the game, and me, should know that the best plan here would be to rush and keep pressure on. If we limit japs (we killed both heroes building shrines, forced him into other cards than 2 cherry orchards, etc), Dutch has a hard time with just skirm/hus and low anti cav from japs and EP walls to hold a french hus + mace/pike/coy combo. However, since it was so laggy Ramex was like, lets just try age for 2 canons and hope that works. We were forced into different play because these guys cant get a proper pc/internet setup and decent micro is basically impossible in a lot (not all!) situations or just too random whether there comes a freeze or not. Might as well use my apm to coinflip before going into a battle rather than trying to micro.
- FYI, game 2 on Indonesia we obviously didnt play right, but we just couldnt be bothered going into a long water game knowing it would just lagg like shit anyway
- As has been said before (and if i remember correctly Kynesie has been banned once), why are such heavy laggers even allowed to play, let alone team, for a tournament. Its just beyond any logic.
- Idc much about the 150$ lol, it sure is nice for some drinks but i dont need it. I was motivated to come and play some again for a nice tournament and ggs.
So now we have a team going to the finals because what? They are so good? No, mostly becasue of their shitty lagg. Sure they are not bad, but just look at how easy they get outplayed in game 1 lol. That is very far from final worthy if I compare it with other games and teams this tourney.
- Ramex12 is Ramex. Ramex19 is his account which I use(d).
- We did point out several times that it was so laggy, also in the games before. The caster itself even did and it clearly shows in the streams as well. Furrthermore, others who previously played vs this team have said the same.
- In game 3 I told very early that it lagged and later, far before it was over, but it seemed we had no option to stop. There are many more moments after that where you see clear freezes and lagg spikes. Including the major deciding battle where Ramex's goon running into ashi, my arrow knights/mace into the hus/ashi mix, etc. And then im not even talking about the fact that your automatic play and 'flow' gets messed up and motivation dissapears. Im not used to clicking 5 times to get 1 command in, no.
- Admins should be there in the semifinals to take action if needed...Would also prevent the awkward situation we are in right now.
- Should we have just ignored the info from the caster/admin and disagree to play and stall everything in a childish way? Seems so. We played on because we thought we had to and it was already getting late (Kynesie coming after 1 hour instead of 20-30 min as claimed by Tit doesnt help either).
- Its very convenient for them that there is always lagg, which they are used to and we are not, same in game 1 and 2. And last I checked, isnt how a competitive later round tourney should go. Also, when in game 1 they play with goon/lb the lagg is 'ok', but when we play skirm/mace/goon and they got hus and ashi it suddenly has huge freezes.
- Ppl that know the game, and me, should know that the best plan here would be to rush and keep pressure on. If we limit japs (we killed both heroes building shrines, forced him into other cards than 2 cherry orchards, etc), Dutch has a hard time with just skirm/hus and low anti cav from japs and EP walls to hold a french hus + mace/pike/coy combo. However, since it was so laggy Ramex was like, lets just try age for 2 canons and hope that works. We were forced into different play because these guys cant get a proper pc/internet setup and decent micro is basically impossible in a lot (not all!) situations or just too random whether there comes a freeze or not. Might as well use my apm to coinflip before going into a battle rather than trying to micro.
- FYI, game 2 on Indonesia we obviously didnt play right, but we just couldnt be bothered going into a long water game knowing it would just lagg like shit anyway
- As has been said before (and if i remember correctly Kynesie has been banned once), why are such heavy laggers even allowed to play, let alone team, for a tournament. Its just beyond any logic.
- Idc much about the 150$ lol, it sure is nice for some drinks but i dont need it. I was motivated to come and play some again for a nice tournament and ggs.
So now we have a team going to the finals because what? They are so good? No, mostly becasue of their shitty lagg. Sure they are not bad, but just look at how easy they get outplayed in game 1 lol. That is very far from final worthy if I compare it with other games and teams this tourney.
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Re: Who should go to the final ?
I don't know why kynesie and to some extend tit are allowed to play in tournaments. If you don't have a stable and reasonable internet connection then there's no place in competitive gaming for you.
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