[AoE3] ESOC Spring Tournament — RO16: LordRaphael vs GoodSpeed

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GS didn't ship Manchus :!:
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What do you mean by this? French>china in ep?
See knuschelbar vs kaiserklein game 2
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this tournament,China lose every game (pro vs pro) and lose rush often.
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pecelot wrote:GS didn't ship Manchus :!:


pro isn't ship manchu.
and manchu can ship 1 time.
but France can train Calvary infinity.
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sudmakmak wrote:
pecelot wrote:GS didn't ship Manchus :!:


pro isn't ship manchu.
and manchu can ship 1 time.
but France can train Calvary infinity.
rekt @peshelot
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I took a very bad fight in that game, if anything it shows the match up is pretty even. If you look closely at the position before the fight I was fine. Just sent 1000c, manchu next, scores were even and China scales better than French.
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fei123456 wrote:What do you mean by this? French>china in ep?
See knuschelbar vs kaiserklein game 2

I made the wrong units so it's not a relevant example
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Goodspeed wrote:I took a very bad fight in that game, if anything it shows the match up is pretty even. If you look closely at the position before the fight I was fine. Just sent 1000c, manchu next, scores were even and China scales better than French.

In my opinion the build order you did was just bad and raphael punished it nicely, even though he also tried his best to throw.
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Build was fine, in hindsight 600w should've been 9 pike maybe but other than that no regrets. But yeah, we both did our share of throwing that game, it's no indication of civ balance.
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Goodspeed wrote:Build was fine, in hindsight 600w should've been 9 pike maybe but other than that no regrets. But yeah, we both did our share of throwing that game, it's no indication of civ balance.

just sell food for manchu. also, you'll need to ally with british before taking a fight.
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Goodspeed wrote:Build was fine, in hindsight 600w should've been 9 pike maybe but other than that no regrets. But yeah, we both did our share of throwing that game, it's no indication of civ balance.

I found that lordraphael did much more throwing. But I also think normal ff is much better. Rewatch the game and take into account the terrible fights he was taking and the fact that at some point he had two cav upgrades sent!
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Jerom wrote:I found that lordraphael did much more throwing. But I also think normal ff is much better. Rewatch the game and take into account the terrible fights he was taking and the fact that at some point he had two cav upgrades sent!

Semiff vs semiff is not bad in theory. 700w 300e 700g into manchu should work. 700w 9 pike 700g should work too (anti raid/kill TPs).
I found pike semi quite useful vs german uhlan semi, at least better than a naked FF.
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im always confident as china in that mu. on most maps, i dont think its very hard. but you need good hunts, otherwise the fast fre pressure will pick you apart easily.

on this ep, i think the only really scary mu's for china are brits, germany and otto. then mu's that they are a bit of an underdog in (well played) japan, russia and spain. sioux, france and aztecs are rather even mu's, but slightly china favored i think. the other mu's china should win.

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