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EP XPMOD Information

Posted: 28 Oct 2017, 06:41
by EAGLEMUT
As a new feature of EP4, XPMOD can now be launched from EP Launcher Tools, or directly from age3xpmod.exe (bundled with EP installation).

I would like to share some details here on how EP implements the XPMOD functionality, and why it is the best implementation around. I consider the file swapping technique (ex. ESO-A) to be an unsafe method. Moving files around seems to be a common cause of permission errors or red flags for antivirus software. Messing with original RE data in this manner can potentially cause RE to become nonfunctional, or permanently stuck in XPMOD-mode. This is something I absolutely want to avoid on EP, which is why I was wary of including this feature in the way it's traditionally been utilized.

And this is why I took a different approach. Instead of creating logic for swapping the files, which couldn't ever realistically work in 100% of cases, I've created a new, separate exe launcher for the XPMOD, based on standard RE TAD launcher. This means that the XPMOD bundled with EP works very similarly to EP/TR patches, in that it acts as an expansion-style mod, loading its own data. Therefore, by using EP XPMOD (be it from EP Launcher Tools, or directly from age3xpmod.exe), you run no risk of negatively affecting any other version of AoE3 that you have currently installed. Furthermore, there's also nothing you need to "toggle off" after using the EP XPMOD. This is actually a significant improvement in convenience as well, both for new players (who might find a toggle confusing), and for veteran players who want to help the newbies out (and deserve the most convenient way to do that).

Bottom line: the recommend way to get XPMOD for anyone should from now on be installing EP. It is safer and more convenient than any other implementation currently available on the market.

Yet in case you do find an issue with EP XPMOD, you can let us know in this thread!

Re: EP XPMOD Information

Posted: 28 Oct 2017, 06:55
by JakeyBoyTH
Will this succeed the previous version, PECELOTMOD?

Re: EP XPMOD Information

Posted: 28 Oct 2017, 07:00
by EAGLEMUT
JakeyBoyTH wrote:Will this succeed the previous version, PECELOTMOD?

To clarify, you still do need another person. It's now just easier than ever to get on XPMOD, thus increasing the chances of finding such a person. :flowers:

Re: EP XPMOD Information

Posted: 28 Oct 2017, 08:38
by JakeyBoyTH
EAGLEMUT wrote:
JakeyBoyTH wrote:Will this succeed the previous version, PECELOTMOD?

To clarify, you still do need another person. It's now just easier than ever to get on XPMOD, thus increasing the chances of finding such a person. :flowers:

Pecelot is the only person for me <3

Re: EP XPMOD Information

Posted: 28 Oct 2017, 13:18
by EAGLEMUT
Ha, actually already identified an issue with this - XPMOD is not being installed for some people, presumably because of antivirus software check.
I'll try to include a fix in today's release, I do have something in mind to avoid the issue.

Re: EP XPMOD Information

Posted: 28 Oct 2017, 21:49
by Timba
So just to confirm, these are roughly the steps for using the new mod?
1. TAKE A BACKUP FILE OF DATAPY.BAR FIRST!
2. AFTER YOU'VE TAKEN A BACK UP, REPLACE THE ORIGINAL WITH THE XP MOD ONE IN: drive_c/program files/microsoft games/age of empires 33. Get someone else to install open the same mod on EP4
4. Play a game (Rated/Unrated) on Fast mode.
5. Wait 2 minutes, then one person resigns (the winner will receive the XP)
6. Uninstall by putting the original back Both players restart the game to revert back to normal(?)
7. Start your game and make sure you do not have version mismatch!

Re: EP XPMOD Information

Posted: 28 Oct 2017, 21:52
by EAGLEMUT
Yep. ;) After using it, close the game and launch whatever patch you want to be on.

Re: EP XPMOD Information

Posted: 29 Oct 2017, 15:46
by Darwin_
This is what I love the EP for! Thank you so much @EAGLEMUT

Re: EP XPMOD Information

Posted: 29 Oct 2017, 16:25
by momuuu
Question: Could it be possible to remove the xp limit per game for home cities in general (this shouldn't be a big deal right, even if you like grinding its stupid taht it's limited per game) and then make an xp mod map with something that gives huge xp or with some trigger that the winner gets a ton of xp. Then it'd be even easier for xp mod to be done.

Re: EP XPMOD Information

Posted: 29 Oct 2017, 16:25
by EAGLEMUT
Glad you all are liking the new XPMOD!
With the now-released EP 4.0.0.1, I'm taking this even further by making XPMOD derived from ESOC patch (instead of RE patch):
XPMOD now includes hook support and Discord bot support! XPMOD rooms are displayed in dark gold color.
This should also fix the issue where XPMOD was not getting installed for some players.

Re: EP XPMOD Information

Posted: 29 Oct 2017, 16:28
by EAGLEMUT
Jerom wrote:Question: Could it be possible to remove the xp limit per game for home cities in general (this shouldn't be a big deal right, even if you like grinding its stupid taht it's limited per game) and then make an xp mod map with something that gives huge xp or with some trigger that the winner gets a ton of xp. Then it'd be even easier for xp mod to be done.

Wow, interesting idea, I think this actually might be possible! Definitely something to look into.
#devthejerom

Re: EP XPMOD Information

Posted: 06 Nov 2017, 08:56
by boks
Pressing the "Launch XPmod" button does nothing for me.I don't have any antivirus either.

Re: EP XPMOD Information

Posted: 06 Nov 2017, 21:29
by EAGLEMUT
boks wrote:Pressing the "Launch XPmod" button does nothing for me.I don't have any antivirus either.

D'oh, looks like this isn't an antivirus problem, XPMOD was actually just not included in the exe installer :shock:
I have now uploaded a fixed version. Please redownload the installer from http://eso-community.net/esoc-patch.php and use it to reinstall.

This problem did not affect auto-update or manual update, only the exe installer.

Re: EP XPMOD Information

Posted: 17 Nov 2017, 09:36
by 1time
Hello,
When i attempt to launch the xp mod i get an error:

"Initialization failed could not load DATAPY.BAR"

Running 64bit windows 8.
Any help is appreciated!

Re: EP XPMOD Information

Posted: 03 Dec 2017, 02:00
by EAGLEMUT
@1time sorry, turns out it still wasn't included properly in the exe installer..
*facepalm*
If you still need XP, please redownload the installer from http://eso-community.net/esoc-patch.php and use it to reinstall.

Re: EP XPMOD Information

Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 02:22
by 1time
Thank you EAGLEMUT it works now!

Re: EP XPMOD Information

Posted: 26 Dec 2017, 20:46
by chris1089
Where do I find EP Launcher Tools? Is it under Document/My Games/Age of Empires 3/ESOC Patch?
All I have in that folder is ESOC Patch 3.1.0.0

Re: EP XPMOD Information

Posted: 26 Dec 2017, 21:38
by EAGLEMUT
@chris1089 When you open the EP Launcher you see a window like on this page, the last button leads to the Tools.
If you can't locate your EP Launcher shortcut, you can try just reinstalling EP.

Re: EP XPMOD Information

Posted: 26 Dec 2017, 21:45
by chris1089
EAGLEMUT wrote:@chris1089 When you open the EP Launcher you see a window like on this page, the last button leads to the Tools.
If you can't locate your EP Launcher shortcut, you can try just reinstalling EP.

Thanks